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Created Windows 2003 Server Raid - need to use it

All,

I had created Raid1 w/Microsoft Server 2003, w/a Basic drive and Dynamic Drive.  I am getting a boot error for my primary drive, how can I run from my backup drive??

Thanks!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hi sporenza,

basically unplug your primary drive..... and see if you can boot up

Cheers!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
sporenza,

sorry i should elaborate   unplug your primary drive, if using SCSI then mirror the jumper settings on the backup drive to match that of the disconnected primary drive
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
Jay Jay, I have tried this, this is what I get:

When starting from primary:
A disk read error occurred
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart

When starting from secondary:
Reboot and Select proper Boot device
or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key


THANKS!
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bourneispCommented:
Hi sporenza,

What sort of boot error are you seeing at the moment, the problem is if this is a software issues then the error will also be mirrored to the second drive.

However if this is a hardware failure then the suggestion Jay_Jay70 made is correct by makeing sure your back up has either the same scsi id or the same master/slave setting as your primary drive should resolve your issue.

Cheers!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
that disk read error is usually hardware

are you using SCSI disks??
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
bourneisp/Jay Jay,

thanks for the help..

I am using IDE drives
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hmm IDE and your getting that error.....

make sure the backup disk is sitting on the same place on the IDE cable that the primary was as well as jumper settings
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bourneispCommented:
With the drive that is still functional make sure it has the same master/slave setting and is put on the same channel as your now damaged drive.

The boot.ini files references these id's and channels so that windows knows where to boot from.
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
I have tried this but I still get this same thing....
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
try booting off a windows cd and see if it picks up the installation
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bourneispCommented:
you said you have a basic and a dynamic drive - which one is functional.

If it is the basic drive you may need to set the partition as active.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
i wasnt aware you can have a basic and dynamic drive in a RAID config     thought they have to be dynamic
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bourneispCommented:
That was also my understanding - i wasnt sure whether there was a possibilty it could be done that i wasnt aware of.
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
I have done this, and tried repairing but no luck, when I do
"dir"

Primary
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Directory of C:\

A error occured during directory enumeration.


Secondary
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The path or file specified is not valid.

THANKS!!
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
I think one is a basic and one a dynamic, but I can be wrong... no way to check now :(
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bourneispCommented:
I have had similar experience in the last month - both my drives were dynamic so it was a simple volume mirrored.

My original drive failed but i discovered my drives were different models and there fore i could not use my backup drive to boot from because of the way windows configures the boot information.

Assuming you must have had two dynamic drives for this raid to work and the raid was synced you should be able to take the second and reinstall windows in a repair mode - this will leave all your data in tact but will repair your windows install and it will be still functional when the reinstall has finished..

My situation was very frustrating as it was an exchange environment - but i did manage to rebuild and the server was fully functional once i had finished, i did have to reapply service packs and replace my faulty drive with the exact model and rebuild the valid mirror.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
did you boot off your windows cd?
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vmaheenCommented:
as above error mesage , seems to be hard disk not detected as boot deivce .

i think now you have removed previous Primary Hard disk. if no then try remove it first.
and  fix the next hard disk to Primary IDE comtroler as Master hard disk ( configure jumper seeting correctly )

power on PC and  goto BIOS menu ( press relevet key ) and confirm the ststus hard disk as primary controler with master.
is that showing with BIOS ?

and next check Boot sequense using BIOS menus and set first boot  to correct Harddisk.

is there  hard disk autodetect setting with you BIOS menus , if yes then try to use that option detect your hard disk.

Save BIOS setting and restart

still same problem ?  if  "yes" then will try to repair master boot record.

next step after your reply..
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vmaheenCommented:

system booting with OS and getting stuck  , is it ?
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
All,

Thanks again,

For the above comment: Date: 04/03/2006 12:17AM PDT, is after I booted w/WIndows Server CD


vmaheen,
sorry but not sure what you are saying, BIOS does see both Harddisks, and is set to boot from them....
the problem is system is NOT booting w/OS
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
All,

I agree now that there is some problem w/hardware.. that is I have placed another harddrive that is fine and the same problem is happening, what do you think could be the problem? IDE Cable? MOtherboard?????

THANKS!!!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
could be either   replace your IDE cable before you go yelling at your MOBO though :)
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
Jay_Jay70,

Thanks for your continual support, it is not the IDE cable... I am thinking though it may be how I have it all connected, it is an HP box but I have placed newer HD on it.. this is how I have it setup:

Primary IDE:
Master: Maxtor DiamondMax 10, Model 6B250R0 <--
Slave: Nothing

Secondary IDE:
Master: CD/DVD ROM
Slave: Nothing

My new question leads to what should the jumper settings be??
DS(Slave), DS(Master), CS Enabled, Cap Limit?????

Should I create a new question??
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hmm as there is only one device per channel jumpers dont really come into play

whats actually happening with this as the moment    can you recap where are up to ??

its fine in this question we shall get it sorted :)
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
OK,,,,

So I have decided I will just format the HD, this I have with Server 2003.  I have placed it as above with a fresh install, I tried to rebuild but Windows would not let me I had to delete the partition, and reinstall OS..

I have removed the second drive for the moment but would like to add it very soon and convert both of them to dynamic so I can try this Raid 1 over again.... :), hopefully it works this time!! They are both 250GB both Maxtor, one is DiamondMax 10 one is DiamondMax 9...

THANKS!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
do you have any jumper settings set?

if so remove them all or set them to the AUTODETECT setting and see how you go
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
Jay_Jay70,

So I have done this set them to AUTODETECT, when I restarted the first time everything starts up fine, no problem...

but (yes there is a but) many times say 95% of the time I get the this error again:
Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key

AHHHH, this is crazy!!!

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hmm very strange - so you were able to get in once and it was fine?

how long did that last?
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
i was able to start windows run it everything is fine, but when I restart it this is when I get the error,
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
im going to have to step away man as i have nothing left,

unless there is a drive corruption i cannot think of anything valid as to why your disk wont boot
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vmaheenCommented:
hi Sporenza ,  ( hi Jay_JAY )

soryy for late reply

* try to replace CMOS battry ( if it fail this kind problem coud happen )
* try to update latest BIOS which compatble  to M/board ( problem could be large capacity not detecting )

Maheen
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hello Maheen,

hopefully you have some good ideas on this coz im out!
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
vmaheen,

I have tried the new CMOS battery and it worked!!! But this morning I could not restart... I had the same problems.. so I pulled out the CMOS battery for about 1 minute but it back in and it worked.... what do you think is the problem?
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vmaheenCommented:
hi Sporenza  and    Jay_Jay  

sorry for  late reply  ( no time to work with E-E ,full time for 110 US $ , lol )  

I think after booting BIOS  program its aumatically update HDD info and that not sopported by BIOS.  and next time reboot it getting stuck.

few soluations i can suggest..

1) update M/board BIOS to latest version .( this  will be the soluation)   whats your M/board type  ?
 2) stop hard disk  "auto detecting" to mode  using BIOS menu  and configure as "User mode"  ( i dont rember correctly, anyway you have stop auto detecting and have to use another system with bios menu)
 3) when problem comes  try to reset COMS using Jumpers or DIP switch ( this is not permanent soluation , but you can reset COMS with removing  Battery)
4) ther could be Hard disk capacity limit jumper seetting ( near  master/slave jumper settings). try to configure ( but if you already formated hard disk with  full capacity,when accessing  OS or DATA on upper area PC get stuck again)

Maheen

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vmaheenCommented:
can you note, always CMOS battery weak ( that mean voltage drop ). then could be battry contact points short circuit. try to clean PC for dust ..
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sporenzaAuthor Commented:
bad mb, do as you wish
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redseatechnologiesCommented:
OK, I change my recommendation to;

Accept: vmaheen(http:16459244)

They adised you to change CMOS batteries, which resolved the problem temporarily, clealy indicating a faulty or failing MB

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