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EXPERTS:Cleanup help needed - Microsoft Network

Hello everyone,

Most of you know that I am responsible for the cleanup of the old questions. When the Asker leaves a question open and there is no activity in the question for more than 21 days, the question is called abandoned and it needs to be closed administratively. But for doing this, we need someone to review the question and make a recommendation. And that is what the Cleanup Volunteers are doing.

More information can be found here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/help.jsp#hs7

If you decide to help, please post here and I will assign you a range. Please do not post recommendation in any question that is not assigned to you.

Please if you see a recommendation in a question you had participated in, read it and post if you object, explaining why. This will help us a lot

Thanks in advance
AnnieMod
Cleanup Admin
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hi Annie,

if you assign me a range now, do i have to complete the range in one hit   or can i do a bit at a time and just post in the community support for the days worth of cleaned Q's?

I'm off to bed, its late in Aus :) ill post back tomorrow when i hear from you

night!
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
You do not have to do it at once. All that I ask is if you clean even one question in a given dy, post the list in Cleanup Area :)

Good night and let me know when you want a range :)

Annie
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Keith - November 2005 ( so I do not forget)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
In that Case then feel free to assign me a range and ill do as i can :)
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Welcome to the crew Jay.

Nov 2005. Yep, I'm on it. :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Thankyou Keith,

Annie Guided me through my first range last night, i didnt realize how hard you guys actually work with the cleanup!
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
That Annie; a real task mistress I can tell you :)

lol, ask Annie how many cleanups Venabili gets through each week, you'll be amazed....

regards
keith
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
one more question probably for both Keith and Annie.  i have read the help page but would like an opinion also

Keith, if you find a question that you participated on and you truly think you have provided the correct answer, which path do you take, do you simply leave it or do you reccomend that your answer get accepted

Annie, Ill start tonight - appears the honeymoon period lasted one night!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
excellent   i might just leave a list of those questions somewhere else and post them up (if i come accross any :) ) after i have finished the month

cheers again
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Nope. Just leave them as they are. Once you say January is done, I will send someone to take the left-overs :)
and Jay, please carefully for still active questions

Annie
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
no worries - ill try not to break anything :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
good evening,

i have completed a 5 - 10 january, Annie do you still want to check im going about this the right way and let me know before i go any further - just in case

shall try and nail some more tomorrow night

Goodnight :)
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Good advice from Annie Jay. I come across a lot that i have participated in. Common sense prevails really and on some of them I have awarded myself accept/assist. When in doubt though, personally I veer towards leaving myself out of the split.

Regards
K
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Thanks Keith
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Do you have Yahoo IM?  I am on as keith_alabaster (strangely enough) if you want to ask anything (if Annie is not around). Off to bed now though :)
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
also removed by Annie  for MS Messenger
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Ah sadly not    i do however use MSN Messenger if that helps    
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
If I am not around, Keith is most probably not around also :))
We are almost the same timezone ( 2 hours difference)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
fair call    i appreciate the help :)    i think im pretty much on the other side of the world    upside down land......
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
lol, Annie is a lot younger than me so she will likely be up later also :)  Yep, I use MSN messenger as above.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
excellent, added you to my msn, my contact is removed by Annie
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Sorry mate... we're done :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Annie,

have completed January 2006  
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Want a new range?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
in a day or two!

should i see how the last one goes or are you happy enough with it?

not giving up on it just going to give my copy + Paste skills a rest for a day or so!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
assign away if you think the last lot was ok
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
shall do  

Thaks Annie

cheers :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
just a quick query

if i ping a question or make a reccomendation   and within a couple of days the conversation is picked up again, do i need to remove my reccomendation or post anything else or will the mods just ignore it??


oh an Hi Annie :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
one other query which may sound stupid,

is a TA area classified as complete only when you have made reccomendations on all the questions or when you have reccomended or PING'd eery question, for example, i have completed Feb for you, but am waiting back for another 20 or so questions which i just pinged

and when i ping a question, when the user responds and PAQ's it or i make a reccomendation off another experts comments, does it get picked up the next time i post a reccomendation list??

that make sense at all?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
ah this is true  -  prob should have thought on that a bit more....

yep chuck in a new range - i have a couple of spare hours after work all week which im stuck in the office so i can do some more - i loooove fastcat


in regards to the second part of my Q, if i ping then post a reccomendation a few days later, does fastcat auto pick that up the next time i post a list? also does it matter if the ranges interlink?
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:) yes it does.
You can have 300 ranges - as long as the cleanup is in one area and in one day, the result is in one recommendation list :)

Jay,

December 2005? THanks

Annie
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
no worries   will be on it tomorrow and will let you know when i have completly finished feb - just a few im awaiting ping responses on
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
not a problem. I do not have too many CVs here - in some areas I have 3 CVs for 100 questions per week and in such cases such pings are problems. Here we are still ok :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
no worries   ill post in the next few days then,

have a good evening / day :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
thanks. :) I will be having a few conversations with clients so this won't be very good day
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
you work and do this - where do you get the time?
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
I have a full time job + a few freelance ones....
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Annie?

obvious homework questions.......delete with refund or no refund??
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
No refund
BUT if there is a good information, award the points (regardless of the fact that it is a homework)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
cool cool thankyou muchly!

-- How did you meetings go?
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
So-so.
The sentence I was using most of the time was "As is written in the documenation......<reading them the line from the documentation>"
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
yep, i deal with retailers all day long that refuse to read the documents....same line comes out of my mouth constantly
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:) Welll... I am a programmer but the idea is similar :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
ahhh.... networking and systems support at the moment, wish people could read.....
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Same here... I spend days on writing and editing manuals, how-tos and so on and at the end someone decides to ask something which is written...

But knowing that i never read my TV manual.... :)))
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Dec 2005 is complete - just waiting on a couple of ping responses
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
My 21 year old body is too old to be up this late..... **grin**

Night Annie,

talk to you tomorrow
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
21? God... when I was 21...
Good night :)
Want new range?

Annie
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
yeah chuck a new range over :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
1-20 March 2006? Thanks :) Although I guess it is bed time for you again ;)

Annie
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
no worries will get on to it!

also, came accross two questions that i participated in and know 100% for sure that my answer was correct, so i reccomended myself as the right answer, i know you mentioned before this is ok if i am certain, but should i just leave them and let your next guy take over them in the future, just looks kinda dicey when i answer the Q    then ping them    then reccomend myself!
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
<<< Jay,

up to you. :) If you are sure you had answered it - recommend so. Or simply leave it and I will have someone to go after you and take care of these...

Annie >>> 
it never feels natural but has to be done sometimes.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
cool cool thanks keith - i know annie mentioned it before but it just felt odd :)

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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
All happens... sometimes you simply need to say "Points for me"
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
excellent - bit more peace of mind

Dec 2005 - Complete
Feb 2006 - Complete

left a couple in both which im sure someone can check :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
>>>> way too many activity in this area so time to leave the experts get some rest... remember - these recommendations are making notifs and the regular guys in the area are getting crazy :)


forgive me but i dont understand what you mean!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
oh so i am causing grief! apologies, and send apologies to whoever copped them all.... :) i see Keith And FE on most!
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
No, you do not :) I am making sure you do not :))
You are doing GREAT work! Just I prefer to stop you for 4-5 days and then get you back than the experts to complain that they have no time to respond :)

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Jay_Jay70Commented:
ok thanks Annie,

think i may take a couple of days off and go relax :)  then ill come give you a hand in 2003 and finish off march next week

Happy Easter to you and Keith

James
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
You too James. Word of caution in the 2003 TA. That has a lot of people who think they are 'experts' and you will get a number who will possibly'challenge' your reasons..... Walk carefully lol :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Easter is next week for me :)

For 2003 area - well... I hadVenabili there for a while and she said she had almost no problems
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
lol, venabili is just brilliant wherever she goes though Annie, isn't she :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Not really :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
thanks Keith

I major mostly in 2003 so will see how i go ha i think the easiest solution in that TA is to give all the points to TheCleaner! that Guy is machine! he just appeared oneday and knows all- scary! Nice bloke too, i chat to him occassionly. I gave poor old Keiren (redseattechnologies) a run for his money with 2003 TA when he started with a couple of questions i had worked on.... He emailed me back and turns out he works 20 minutes down the road from me! Small world hey

Annie,
Its Easter for me so im going to eat chocolate! I see Venabili all over the place, cant fathom how someone can clean soooo many TA's she's a machine!

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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Nah... she just decided that she will not answer questions but will do cleanup "__


Happy Easter to both of you then :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Fair enough then, nice to have someone so consistent around like that - makes sure the job gets done!

talk soon

cheers!
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
October & November 2005 completed.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hi Annie (and Hi Keith)

you gave me that 1-20 march range a little while ago - i am two thirds through it at the moment :) was just taking it easy for a week or so like you mentioned :)

will finish it off in the next couple of days for you and then grab another range if thats cool
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
i have left a few though which keith will find shortly :) :) :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
ive done up till half way through the 13th march so far

do you want me to just leave it there inclusive of my pinged list and let keith handle them?
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Nope, finish your pings.
Then I am changing the ranges - I forgot you still had work in 1 -20 range :)

Jay,
1-20 March 2006

Keith,
Everything before March 2006 + 21- 31 March 2006...

Annie
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
aight no worries, i have to fly to **&*^^** Bourke tomorrow

thats 3.5 hours on a single engined cessna which has to stop for fuel halfway...

let me draw you a map

                                                                                                                              Brisbane

Bourke





                                                                                                   



                                                                                                                            Sydney (me)


I hate Bourke..... grrr
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:)) Have fun
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
I'm on it. All MS networks up to the end of Feb 2006 + march 21- 31 2006 :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Annie!

Cleanup 1 - 20 March done and done, there are a few Q's that i didnt post on that you may want to get Keiths opinion

feel free to assign a range when needed
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
heya,

Done,

going to sleep now - pretty sick at the moment   just post what you need done

James
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Get better my friend :)
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
All pre March 2006 done (couple of pings I'll deal with over he weekend)
21-30 march 2006 done (Jay_Jay decided to do the 31st...) lol

Range completed.
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
31st is different for you and him - time difference :))

If you have some time, can you help in the main Networking area? http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Q_21830861.html
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hello hello Annie

had a nice break for a week or so :)

would you prefer help in 2k3 or networking TA? im probably more knowledgeable in 2k3 but i know you already have a few CV's, your call, i can pretend i know how to spell networkif ya like :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Why does that not surprise me, and at the same time inspire fear........ :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
ill give it a shot - not huge on my knowledge of a lot of networking Q's but if i get stuck my old mate keith will get hammered on msn :)

ill post in there for you
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Not a problem. Always a pleasure; never a chore :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Or simply skip the question if you prefer
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Keith,

Can you cover April 2006 here?

Thanks
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Will do.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
no problem, have been hectic with work lately so apologies on the networking slowness, ill try and nail this this week also
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Thanks :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
pre April complete
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
yep thats fine, i like ms network much more than networking! its long and slow on my networking list
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Yeah but networking is in worse shape...
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
yup and it has to be done so its all good

what date range in here do you want done
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
no problem at all :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hi Annie

got a bit confused so just grabbed 1May - 8May is that ok? ill continue on and look after may but is that ok to start?
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Yes - you start on the 1st of May and clean any abandoned question which appears in May
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
so far i have done 1 - 20may, been a bit hectic as i am doing every couple of days so there is no doubt some that are now due for cleanup that weren't a few days ago...... ill keep going for the next couple of weeks but then i am off on holidays for a couple of weeks   woohoo! I am thinking about taking a trip to the UK to give Keith some fashion tips.... :P
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:))
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Ha. You need every dollar you have for a style guru buddy :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
brother, i am a style Guru - and i got the shorts to prove it lol! one day you will see the light!
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:) If nothing else, you make me smile guys :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Tis a good thing! Australia are beating England 6-0 at half time in the rugby! woohoo! Victory will be ours!
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Annie. make him stop. He wants me to wear women's clothes like his and he is making my head hurt :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Dont listen to him he has gone mad, he is upset coz the picture of him in a dress that he sent me, made his butt look big.... :-P
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Sometimes I wonder if I manage a Cleanup process or a bunch of pre-school kids:))
What's wrong with the women's clothes? I wear them all the time :)) Joking :))

 come on Jay. You cannot change someone from good old England.. You know them  - they are never changing :)

Keith,

Come on. Jay is just a kd :) Let him play :))
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
lol. James's Grandparents live only 10 miles from me in England. They are visiting him in Australia soon so I expect a present (some shorts) when they return :)  They probably will not fit me as I have a much fitter & slimmer body than James but it is the thought that counts hahaha
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
haha! just a kid ey! hmm Annie Hmmm.....! :-P

never changing indeed....except for last night, where for a change we beat the life out of the english rugby team!

Keith,

You will be getting an entire wardrobe worth of singlets and shorts, i am going to find you the most outrageous pair that i can and get my grandparents to bring them to you, and the condition is, they have to get a picture before they leave! i can see it now, Keith in little pink shorts for his page editor photo! lol !!!!
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hello hello,

i have finished may with the excpetion of a few which need to be checked :)

am off on holidays in a couple of days but will continue to clean june when i get back if you like the same as may

hope all is well

James
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:) have a nice vacation
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
oh I intend to! Best snowfalls in NZ in a long time so will be having a blast
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
snowfalls? Oh my... We are up to 35C here... want some 10 degrees?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
hell no, i have had my summer already! its all yours!!
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:)) Hm.. OK :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hello Hello!

how's it going, along with some cleanup news, i thought i would send a site which may explain a couple of Keith's more interesting traits, things might be a bit clearer after reading this......

have completed may 21 through to July 06 - just waiting on a few pings

hope things are well
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Want a new range?

Sorry for the delays but I am away from home - at the wrong end of the Ocean... I am even on the wrong Ocean actually.... :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
oh really? where are you?


i dont think there is anything left to clean here.....i did everything from jan 2005 till now
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
sorry..meant to say i went through and grabbed any outstanding Q's in that period, we all know Keith cleaned them all long before me!
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
California :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
thats just plain mean :(
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
why?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
coz the rest of us are stuck in an office lol!

hope you are having fun!
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Who said I am on vacation?:)
I am as stuck in the office as you are just the office is on the other end of the world and I am sleeping at a hotel instead of my apartment :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
oh what, i assumed holiday! ok ok you win! when are you back?
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:) was this a competition?:))
I will be back in the 4th week of August..:)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Its always a competition, since we lost the world cup, i am starting arguments with anyone anywhere simply to thrive on small victories that may come past lol!
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Annie, I am off for a few days break. I will be hitting my areas fairly hard so do you want me to take a range in here again? Looks like there are calls back to May that need cleaning if anyone wants a hand.
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Jay thinks he is ok.

Jay,

Need some help?

Annie
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
i think i am ok, i am in the middle of changing jobs so it might be a week or so before i get another list cranked out
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hi Annie

As you know there was some major issues with my account over the last week or so that have no been resolved.

The account is now completely back in my hands and i can get back to work if you feel like giving me some CV status back :)

James
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Done

Annie
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
OK. Work will be calming down nowso I'm going to be able to start answering questions in the MS networks forum again. Will be able to do cleanups here also if you want Annie :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
All is well, Keith has enough cleanup to do in lots of TA's - I mean if you get bored Keith, feel free :).... I usually get in there and do a stack every so often when i can.

Between the two of us it will be done as usual :)

James
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
No sweat. I'll keep out (unless asked)  :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Ha! Don't be like that :-) was just trying to make sure you didn't go mad - oh and you should subscribe to my notif Question :)
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Don't forget you were going to email me your Yahoo account name
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Could have sworn i did that the same night i got it! On the way :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Do I have this yahoo ID? If not - mail to me  on the way please...
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
you added me 2 days ago :)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Do you see now why I need coffee before I say anything? ;)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
dont worry, i am on coffee number 2 and its 9am.......:)
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
I.ve added you but it is pending acceptance :)
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
ill have a think......:)
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
9 am? If I am up at this time, I need like 5 coffees. I am NOT a morning person. At all...
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
you and me both, it really is a horrible time to be awake
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
:)) And why are you up THAT early?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
I start work at 8am, have to leave my house at 7 :(
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AnnieModAuthor Commented:
Oh my...
I start at 10 and in most days do not really make it there before 10.30
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Now thats what I am talking about! One day....I would love to sleep in every day!
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Annie, I have started doing cleanups here
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Keith AlabasterCommented:
Reminder - on holiday from today - back around 26th

Regards
keith
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