Lotus Notes Admin - No registration server or certification server available to recertify a user

Ok, it seems to be a doozy! I have taken over the role of Lotus Admin in an environment where Lotus is a very old version, its only used for database purposes (no mail) and has limited admin accessibility. I can log in and it does seem that I am an admin. There is no NotesAdmin id file that I can see so I cannot log in as NotesAdmin. I have a power user whos about to expire and I cannot recertify the user because either I dont know how ( i have tried every standard procedure) or I cannot because of bad config. When I try to create a new user, it does not create user.id file. When I copy another user, it copies that users ID file making the login useless for security reason. May as well give access to my user id. I need a way to "hack" or reconfigure stuff to maybe create new reg server. I need "hi-end" help  and not links to possible solutions. Lotus Admins only, please respond.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAsked:
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
If you respond shortly, I will be online to discuss right away. No responses will be given over the weekend since I wont have access to the server.
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brwwigginsIT ManagerCommented:
you need access to the certifying ID files to recertify a user. Do you have access to these files?
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
No I do not. I have admin access to the server but thats it. I can detach any id file but there isnt one for NotesAdmin.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
Thanks to famousnametaken for the quick intervention.
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brwwigginsIT ManagerCommented:
I would search the server for *.id and look for one called cert.id or something like that.

You don't necissarily need a NotesAdmin account or the ID file for it if you have sufficient rights. But the main thing will be the certifier IDs.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
where on the server?
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brwwigginsIT ManagerCommented:
anywhere....the previous admin could have stored them wherever

Typically they are usually found under the <drive>:\Lotus\Notes\Data\IDs\Certs
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
Ok, I will try and login to my unix server and look. back with a reply in a bit.
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brwwigginsIT ManagerCommented:
I"m more familiar with Domino on Windows. I'm not sure if you will find them on Unix
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
I found them. now what?? :)
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
I dont have the password to the cert.id file when I try to certify nor do I have the notesadmin.di password. I am trying to locate them as we speak.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
Will have to leave this until monday. Thanks for your help and will pick this up on monday.
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brwwigginsIT ManagerCommented:
ok, if you can get the passwords to the cert ID then the rest is not that bad.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
ok, hacking using passware as we speak!! :) may take all weekend. Hopefully by then I will find the password. I hate having to hack a legitimate server but thats the only way for now.
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Sjef BosmanGroupware ConsultantCommented:
Can you give us some more info on the H/W and the rest? Apparently Unix, but what O/S exactly? What Notes and Domino releases?

I think you'd better ask the former Admin of the server for the passwords. It is impossible to re-create keys without the certifier-key. You NEED that password and preferably also the password of the admin-ID. If you can't find them, ask your manager('s manager) for help. We can help with all the rest.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
The problem is that there has been a complete staff change. Luckily, I am "friends" with the last administrator so I am trying to get the passwords from him. I am running an old version of Notes (4.x) running on a SUN box with windows clients. If the above statement is correct, then I will have no choice but to obtain the cert password. Will let you know if successful.
Thanks.
I will be awarding points accordingly even though no solution has been really helpful! :) (Although brwwigins, has pointed me in the right place to get the cert files, so points will be awarded at least to him :)
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Sjef BosmanGroupware ConsultantCommented:
Would you have liked it better when we would have said: "Oh, but it's easy, cracking a Notes/Domino server!". Domino is secure and you need one key to enter the server as an ordinary user, another one (usually) to enter as administrator and yet another one to create new users.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
to tell u the truth, i am dissapointingly impressed on their tight security!! :) Now if I was planning to keep the domino server I would be alot happier knowing the security is tight but since I am migrating....LOL
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Sjef BosmanGroupware ConsultantCommented:
Ah, that HURTS man! You shouldn't have said that. We're trying to help you and you're moving away from Notes?  

Just curious... Is there something better then??
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
to be honest, I love notes but the company was using it for the wrong reasons! Now we have an inhouse app that we want to port some of the info for diff reasons. 1st, cheaper for us cuz we dev software, 2nd, we only need some info.
Is there something better?? Hard to tell as I do not know everything it can do. It does seem better than exchange (which i know a bit about)
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
Ok peeps, heres the latest. I have my cert.id and my notesadmin.id. I have the password but my notesadmin user has expired!!!!
Now for some strange reason, I cannot recertify. It tells me I do not have authorization. Strange since yesterday I was ble to. I am at a loss!
Help
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
Ok I found (i think) how to do it and now it says that "Entry not found in index"!!!!
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
I think I got it!! Will get back to u all!
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
Youppi!! Ok, now the question is, can I change someones password whos left the company and whos password I do not have? I do have their certifier ID.
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brwwigginsIT ManagerCommented:
The only way you could change the password if you don't know it is to use password recovery (which is not setup by default). Even then you would have to know the password to the recovery ID. Otherwise, there is not really a way to reset a password since you are authenticating with the local ID file instead of a central server somewhere.

so did you finally get the ID re-certified that you originally needed?
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyAuthor Commented:
I did! Thank you. Now if I can find that password for the user i need  I would be all set! :)
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