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Network not talking

i have 2 computers on my network, computer A and B. computer A is connected to the internet and is running WINXP Pro, computer B is running XPhome. I tried to set up a network using the network wizard on both computers with some success. Firstly, when i try to view the workgroup on computer A, i recieve the message:
"MSHOME is not accessible. You might not have permission to use the network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is currently not available."

And so i basically cant access computer B from A, it doesnt even see it.

Secondly, when i try to view the workgroup from computer B, it does display both computers but when i try to access computer A, it says access is denied. Computer B does, however, recieve access to the internet through a gateway.

I have ensured both workgroups are the same
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LeighJor
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
Hi LeighJor,

step one turn off windows firewall - do both machines get internet? can they both ping each other by name and IP?

is there matching accounts on each machine?

have run through these
http://65.24.134.81/KipSolutions/P2PNetworks/TroubleshootingP2P.htm
from Fatal_Exception
compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworking/

www.microsoft.com/technet/ prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/p2pintro.mspx

Cheers!
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
You need to create a user account on the XP Pro system.  Create a new share and add the user account with permissions associated to the share. restart the XP PRO... then test the connection.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
LeighJor,

sorry mate second link
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworking/
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j_h_oCommented:
On the XP Pro machine, go into My Computer, Tools, Folder Options.  On the view tab, go straight down to the bottom, and uncheck "use simple file sharing".

See if that changes anything.
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LeighJorAuthor Commented:
Sorry both PCs running xp pro. Comp A can see B under workgroup computers. B cannot even see itself. Both can ping each other by ip. Comp A running Zone alarm sec suite. B only xp fwall which is disabled.
Simple file sharing was un checked so i checked it-no change-have unchecked it again.
In ZA 192.168.1.0 is in trusted network zone but my gateway is 1.1?
Thanks so far
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j_h_oCommented:
Access directly by share/IP address.
Start, run, \\192.168.1.1 etc.  Can you see the other computer that way?

Check the networking stack - you have File/Print sharing enabled, client for MS Networks, and, in TCP/IP, you have NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled, correct?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
turn off zone alarm to start with - its fine but get your network setup first

enable netbios on the both machines under tcpip settings

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LeighJorAuthor Commented:
Everything appears enabled on both pcs . Have shut down ZA. Used the network wizard again. Get internet thats all.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
did you go through the P2P site above? that has virtually every issue with P2P and how to fix it
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j_h_oCommented:
Accessing by fileshare won't let you see the other computer?  You're able to ping it, but can't browse to it using \\IP address?
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
can you ping via name?
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LeighJorAuthor Commented:
cant ping via name, ive flushed dns and reregistered, still no go.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
netbios enabled over tcpip on both machines? check under tcpip properties - advanced - WINS - enable tcpip over....
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scrathcyboyCommented:
You MUST share at least one drive on computer B for this to work.  Open windows explorer, right click on the C drive, go to sharing, and allow full sharing with users able to change files.  Reboot the system B and now system A will be able to see it, and access the C drive.
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Jay_Jay70Commented:
you dont HAVE to have a share  more important at the moment is getting the two machines to talk - you can connect to a machine with no shares just fine
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cooleditCommented:
hi, there

If you can not ping from one machine to another and both IP are in the same address range I will assume there is still a firewall issue.

Try this on the machine that is not able to be pinged. on a command prompt.

sc.exe config SharedAccess start= Disabled

you will now need a reboot of the system.... Can you ping it now the XP internal firewall is disabled forever now.

Cooledit
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LeighJorAuthor Commented:
I made a share on B. reboot. Both can seem themselves now.On A I entered 192.168.1.2 in Run it came up as http//192.168.1.2 and went to site proclaiming "congratulations Net Server is now setup"????!! eh. It even had B's name.
eh?
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
@leighjor...are you saying that you're OK?
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LeighJorAuthor Commented:
No not ok. What the expletive is Net Server. It mentions apache php etc . has some one setup a server on  pc B.
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BLipmanCommented:
Shouldn't you be entering \\192.168.1.2\ in the Run bar?  Look in the properties of each machine's network connection and make sure "Client for Microsoft Networks" and "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" are there.  Can you go to the command prompt and try this: net use * \\192.168.1.2\sharename (where the IP address is that of the other machine and the sharename is the name of the share you are trying to connect)?  What is the error?
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LeighJorAuthor Commented:
OK .All is fine . Sorry I did not get back earlier. It appears that th e router was giving A an out of range IP address. Guess how I discovered this.......

down



down


I opened up Network Connection Staus. Opened support tab and saw it there. Hit repair and all is now well.
I'm gonna hide for a while?!
I will share points with everyone. Once I find out how

Cheers
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
look for SPLIT POINTS above the comment box, then allocate accordingly,

Thanks in advance!!

Irwin
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
cool. thank you!
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