Setting up a 2-PC Network

I have 2 pc's connected to the back of one of these:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Siemens_SpeedStream_6300_wireless_router/4505-3319_7-30961603.html

They both access the internet perfectly as is, I would like to be able to network the 2 together to share files, an HP Color Laser Printer, and the HP Scanner if possible.

On this PC (XP Pro) - I just ran the Network Setup Wizard, and made a "Network Disk" I believe it was called. I inserted that disk into the other PC, running W2K, and was told the PC had to be 98, ME or XP.

So now I'm stuck, as it were...

Thanks,
Sean
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masnrockCommented:
You didn't need the Network Setup Wizard... you only need that in instances where you're using Internet Connection Sharing on one of the machines and connecting another machine directly. Once they're connected to the same router, they're on the same network. All you need to do is make sure that File and Printer Sharing is enabled on both machines. For your printer, you need either a JetDirect card or a print server. The scanner might be the annoying thing to try to share.
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
My two cents: Make sure they are in the same workgroup! Make sure also they are on the same subnet. Let the speedstream give ip (dhcp) to both machines. Once done, you can share the printer and use printer sharing. For scanning, u cannot use it unless the scanner is network enabled. Some scanners will allow you to setup the twain driver and point to IP address. For the printer if you do not want to use sharing, you can install LPD printing and have the second pc point to the ip but it kind of is the same thing.
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lambderCommented:
If both your p.c's access the internet then I am assuming they both have valid i.p addresses. Goto "my network places", "entire network", "microsoft windows network" and you should be able to access either of your p.c's from in there. Double check to see if your printer has an rg45 network connection on the back because this will enable you to connect straight into your router as well. Otherwise you can connect it to one of your p.c's using either USB or Parallel and then use the print setup wizard to connect to it from the other.
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
Okay...
From my XP PC, I right click on my Local Area Connection, click on Properties, and get this:

http://www.pdgmedia.com/n1.gif

Clicking on File and Printer Sharing and then Install I get this:

http://www.pdgmedia.com/n2.gif

Now what? I'm not sure how to proceed at this point...

Thanks,
Sean
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DoTheDEW335Commented:
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DoTheDEW335Commented:
You have it already installed, you just need to put the checkmark in it in picture 1
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
lambder -

Clicking on "Office"
http://www.pdgmedia.com/n3.gif

Gives me this:
http://www.pdgmedia.com/n4.gif

Office was the name I gave to a folder I created under Shared Documents. Is that where that name is coming from?

Sean
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
ok, holdon....just check mark the file and print sharing on the pc with the printers and files...or both pcs if you cross hare. Thats all. Once done, make sure they are both in the same workgroup(easier to maintain). Then browse your network places, microsoft networks, and you should see both machines. This may take up to 10 mionutes to refresh due to netbios. Now you should see the machines but nothing there cuz u havenet created the shares yet. TO do so, as a test, pic a folder and right click and hit sharing. Use simplpe file sharing and give it a share name if you dont like the default one. Then go back to network places and hit refresh, you should see the share. You can double clik it to access or right click to map network drive.
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
DoTheDEW335,

It's not installed, even when checked.
http://www.pdgmedia.com/n5.gif
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
Office is the name of the PC
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
Nothing to install. the check is enough
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
You know - this is probably beyond me. Too many settings and dialog boxes :-)
I think it's best I just open up the yellow pages and get someone over here...
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
I can remote in if you want. :)
Its really quite simple if you listen to one person and go step by step. Get me on msn and I can work with you if you want.
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
"Once done, make sure they are both in the same workgroup(easier to maintain)."

Not sure what that means...

Then browse your network places, microsoft networks, and you should see both machines.
No, just "Office" which I can't access from either PC, even though they both show it.

Thanks,
Sean
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DoTheDEW335Commented:
Sean, it is installed, just not enabled. If the box is there and it is unchecked it is not enabled. I was correct in saying you have it installed and you just need to add the checkmark. As far as your "Workgroups" question you simply right click my computer click properties and click the Computer Name Tab at the top then click the Change button and you can change the workgroup name. It's recommended to have both PC's with the same Workgroup....

If you want to start over , Microsoft has a good guide and also an interactive guide..

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/default.mspx
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
My mistake. Office is the workgroup but maybe only on one machine. Right click on my computer , properties, netowrk identification, properties.....do this on both pc's.. what do you have?
also, did you check mark file and print sharing on both pcs?
Is XP firewall running?
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
They both say WORKGROUP. don't mean to yell it :-)

did you check mark file and print sharing on both pcs?
Yes, but "Properties" is not available on eother pc when I select it.

Is XP firewall running?
Yes, on this PC.

LOL - the other PC, when rebooting, says:
Smart detects imminent failure of your Primary Master Hard Disk. Replace it immediately or lose everything - or something to that effect.

Sean
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Eric BDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
thats not good!!! there are no properties for file and print sharing on 2000.
Something is wrong if both workgroups are workgroups and you see "office"
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rairdonmCommented:
Do you have norton internet security or similar?
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rairdonmCommented:
Norton always seems to block file and printer sharing...that's why I ask.  You need to enable it and possibly an acceptable network range.

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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
I'm going to have a peek at the other PC - I'll either replace the HD or get a new one from Dell - 'tis getting on in years.

When all is done, it might be best to get someone to remote in and handle this for me. I'm fairly convinced that I'm only going to make matters worse.
Thanks for all your help :-)

Sean
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DoTheDEW335Commented:
Actually sounds like it's all setup ok except the XP firewall. If you turn it off , it should work fine. (Minus the bad hard drive)..

I'd say take off the XP Firewall and you should be good to go..

Control Panel > Windows Firewall > Turn Off...
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
Success. The ICF was the problem!
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dzenarCommented:
Did you get that router from your telco?

The all in one wifi router/modems that are distributed by Sympatico (in Canada) are flashed with customm firmware and are crippled so that you can't establish a LAN between your PCs.

Customer support referred to this as an 'unsupported issue'... Bizarre...

I was left with two choices:

1. Spend my valuable time trying to hack their stupid box, or -
2. Return their crappy all-in-one crippled solution.

I changed DSL providers just for being insulted like that, and when I did, I asked for a simple DSL bridge/modem, and bought my own wireless router/print server.
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seanpowellAuthor Commented:
Yes, it's from Sympatico... but it seems to be fine. No problem in sharing files, but need to get a rj45 cable to hook up the printer to the back of the router.

Thanks,
Sean
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