Can I use a Pentium D on an ECS RS400-A motherboard
Good morning.
A client bought an ECS RS400-A motherboard/Pentium D processor as a set on sale (Fry's Electronics) and asked me to build it into a system. 98, 98SE, 2000 Pro and XP SP2 Pro installs load appropriate drivers but all hang at the point where setup starts windows. I have been told by collegues that use of the LGA 775 slot means that the motherboard can take either; however, I read other places (like Tom's Hardware) where motherboards require a special boot sequence to determine whether to boot single or dual core.
The ECS website does not specifically state support for Pentium D (only Pentium 4) and all of the reviews do not address it.
Has anyone successfully built a system with a Pentium D or do you know that they are in fact not interchangeable?
Take care and have a good day.
Rich Seyfert
A client bought an ECS RS400-A motherboard/Pentium D processor as a set on sale (Fry's Electronics) and asked me to build it into a system. 98, 98SE, 2000 Pro and XP SP2 Pro installs load appropriate drivers but all hang at the point where setup starts windows. I have been told by collegues that use of the LGA 775 slot means that the motherboard can take either; however, I read other places (like Tom's Hardware) where motherboards require a special boot sequence to determine whether to boot single or dual core.
The ECS website does not specifically state support for Pentium D (only Pentium 4) and all of the reviews do not address it.
Has anyone successfully built a system with a Pentium D or do you know that they are in fact not interchangeable?
Take care and have a good day.
Rich Seyfert
Callandor
If you look at the chipsets that support the Pentium-D (http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_D/index.htm), you will see that the ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 is not included. The Windows motherboard drivers have to support the Pentium-D for this to work.
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Interesting that Fry's sold this as a set: simple fact is the board does NOT support the 8xx and 9xx processors -- i.e. the Pentium-D's.
sparkmaster -- AMD made a minor pinout change for their dual-cores (939 vs 940 pins), but I don't think Intel has done so ==> they use the 775 socket for both Pentiums and Pentium-D's.
callandor -- I don't think the graphics chipset matters here; it's the CPU support chipset that determines single/dual core support. I'm sure a board can be built that supports the Pentium-D with Radeon Express graphics.
sparkmaster -- AMD made a minor pinout change for their dual-cores (939 vs 940 pins), but I don't think Intel has done so ==> they use the 775 socket for both Pentiums and Pentium-D's.
callandor -- I don't think the graphics chipset matters here; it's the CPU support chipset that determines single/dual core support. I'm sure a board can be built that supports the Pentium-D with Radeon Express graphics.
> callandor -- I don't think the graphics chipset matters here; it's the CPU support chipset that determines single/dual core support. I'm sure a board can be built that supports the Pentium-D with Radeon Express graphics.
Gary, I'm shocked! The ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 is the Northbridge chipset, not a video chipset (I think this is commonly referred to as the Crossfire chipset). The onboard video is an ATI Radeon X300-based 2D/3D chip.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135196
Gary, I'm shocked! The ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 is the Northbridge chipset, not a video chipset (I think this is commonly referred to as the Crossfire chipset). The onboard video is an ATI Radeon X300-based 2D/3D chip.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135196
Well ... we all make mistakes :-) I read your post too quickly !! I even noticed the X300, but just figured you'd typed 200 instead of 300 !! Guess I needed more coffee this morning :-) :-)
... but the really interesting mistake here is that Fry's sold the motherboard/CPU as a "set" !!
Ah, it's good to know you're human too ;-)
I'm not surprised that Fry's didn't know better - they're just a consumer electronics store.
I'm not surprised that Fry's didn't know better - they're just a consumer electronics store.
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Good afternoon.
As it turns out it had nothing to do with the chipset itself, as the replacement he is getting, RC410L/800M (2.0) (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=565&MenuID=93&LanID=9) uses the same chipset. It must then be the BIOS boot process and the LGA775 pin changes that made the difference. At any rate it looks like I will get more free spare parts for the collection.
Anyway, thanks for the help as I will remember to add chipset support to my list of things to check next time.
Take care and have a good day.
Rich
As it turns out it had nothing to do with the chipset itself, as the replacement he is getting, RC410L/800M (2.0) (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=565&MenuID=93&LanID=9) uses the same chipset. It must then be the BIOS boot process and the LGA775 pin changes that made the difference. At any rate it looks like I will get more free spare parts for the collection.
Anyway, thanks for the help as I will remember to add chipset support to my list of things to check next time.
Take care and have a good day.
Rich
Sounds fair to me - and gracious of you to boot :-) I looked at the same list and noted that the processor numbers for the -D's aren't on it; but sparkmaster posted the link first.
I'd suggest you just unaccept the answer and let Rich do as he chooses :-)
I'd suggest you just unaccept the answer and let Rich do as he chooses :-)
Callandor -- don't do anything here, but speaking of mistakes, it's always interesting (& I suppose a bit frustrating) to see just-plain-wrong answers accepted !! https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21819787/Hard-Drive-Cable-Extender-or-SATA-Adapter.html
I am humbled Callandor.
Gary you are certainly correct once again, Rich should make the decision on which answer/answers he deems to be acceptable.
Gary you are certainly correct once again, Rich should make the decision on which answer/answers he deems to be acceptable.
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Good morning.
Thanks for the opportunity to change my award. I obviously awarded before I had completely solved the problem; something I will try not to do in the future.
Take care and have a good day.
Rich Seyfert
Thanks for the opportunity to change my award. I obviously awarded before I had completely solved the problem; something I will try not to do in the future.
Take care and have a good day.
Rich Seyfert