ATI FireGl 7800 on IBM A31P no driver???

hi there,
I'm new to linux and I cant find a driver for ATI FireGL 7800, I've installed debian 3.1 last stable version. I cant get a reasonable resolution for my screen even under vesa, I'm stuck under 800x600. what can I do???
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orenisraeli2000Asked:
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gheistCommented:
It should work using "radeon" driver.
"X -configure" must create working config file.
If not - post outputs of "uname -a" and "X -version" (omiting hostnames to stay safe from internet)
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
why radeon drivers???
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
uname -a : Linux (name) 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
X -version >t.txt won't work so here the important info I think
Xfree86 Version 4.3.0.1
X protocol version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.8-16.0508-2 i686 [ELF]
OS Kernal : Lin8ux version 2.4.27-2-386 (gcc version 3.3.5)
hope it'll help
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
btw, the "Radeon" driver is the same as for "FireGL' driver in the ATI site .
fglrx_6_8_0-8.24.8-1.i386.rpm
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gheistCommented:
opensource "radeon" driver from x.org is not same proprietary "fglrx" from ati technologies site.

BTW FireGL 7xxx is NOT supported by ATI Technologies drivers...


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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
I didn;t get what I should do now after your remark
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
there is nothing to download form x.org about the redeon driver
I hope I'm wrong
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gheistCommented:
Your version of XFree86 is AGES OLD.
It does not contain any radeon driver, nor ATI Inc. driver will ever work with it.

Try Ubuntu - it is very graphical and based on debian dpkg and kernel and tools.
Either 5.04 or 5.10 will support your card, 5.10 even better.
Actually LiveCD will give you insight with hardware compatibility.

fglrx driver does not work with your card, no need to try it.

Excerpt from "radeon" manual page:

      The radeon driver supports PCI and AGP video cards based on the follow-
       ing ATI chips
...
       RV200       Radeon 7500, M7, FireGL 7800
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gheistCommented:
X.Org                            Version 6.9.0
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
can you give me more detail how to do it???
I have no problem to raise point , Ijust need it to work and I'm new in Linux I dont have much time to learn now
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
I want to stay with debian!!!
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
how do I Install Xorg or update it to newest version???
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GnsCommented:
Don't.

Or rather... If you decide to update to something newer, do so by going "slightly unstable":-). The Debian stable branch is _always_ severly out of date. It is so bad that one really has to doubt the viability of using the stable branch for anything serious (strange as it may sound). If one wants to stay "in the family", Ubuntu 5.10 is nice:-).

But back to your issues:
I'm not that certain that XFree86 version 4.3.0.1 _doesn't_ contain the opensource driver, on the contrary... I'm quite certain that it does contain it.
What you need do to start using it is to edit your configuration file (I only have a "surviving" Debian 3.0 with XFree86 version 4.1.0 on, so ... this is _probably_ the same) either named /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/XF86Config (the former should take precedense over the latter, in case both exist), an make usure you use either Drtiver "ati" (which is supposed to automagically select the correct driver for Mach* Rage128 and Radeon (which, as Andrew has mentioned already, contain support for your FireGL 7800), or use Driver "radeon".
If you have X running, you'll of course need restart it after changing the file.

Does this not work for you? What errors do you get in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file?

-- Glenn
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gheistCommented:
http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html
Radeon driver - Yes. FireGL 7800 - No.

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18896
7800 - No. Old XFree86 - Yes.

X -configure selects driver named "ati" which automagically will use "radeon" driver when needed.

Minimum to support FireGL would be upgrading to XFree86 4.4.0
http://www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/radeon.4.html

You may wish to use X.org 6.9.0 for extra eye-candy like real translucent windows and hardware rendered fonts (this one is included in Ubuntu)

Why I am suggesting Ubuntu - http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity !!!

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GnsCommented:
Ah. Bummer. So likely no go then. Oh well.... always the bad thing with Debian stable... Should've checked the fine print, it's been a while since I fiddled with 4.3.0 last (I had to resurrect the Debian mentioned above... Horror.:).

Why I'm suggesting Ubuntu? Has nothing to do with popularity, and all to do with 1) functionality (it's simply well come together), and 2) the expressed desire to stay Debian.... Ubuntu is the child that got it right:-).

-- Glenn
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orenisraeli2000Author Commented:
well ubuntu wins, thank u all
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