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Dialup office

I did something like this many years ago, but not recently. So I've come to the brain cache!!

I have a client that can only do dialup. Broadband has not reached them. What is a common &/or reliable way to connect them thru a dedicated phone number to the internet, keep the connection alive, & allow everyone to access it with disconnecting or messing up someone else already online. I use to use a modem & some software (AnalogX) to do this that kept the connection open most of the time.

I know that there have probably been some new software & hardware created that can do this better than what I use to use.

So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
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Blinkr
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Blinkr
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
There are a few ways to do it, but it can be a bit of a pain.
-You can enable modem sharing if you have a 2000 or NT server, I believe it has been eliminated with 2003.
-You can enable ICS (Internet Connection Sharing with Windows 2000/XP/2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;%5BLN%5D;310563
-Third party applications.

If you want to stay connected fine. But if you only want to connect on demand you will quickly discover how many of your applications try to connect to th Internet on a regular basis, primarily for updates.
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Naser GabajCommented:
Greetings Blinkr,
>> I use to use a modem & some software (AnalogX) to do this that kept the connection open most of the time.
That's the most proper way you can do, as far as i know.
Also, use one of those free softwares to keep you connection alive as much as possible, or tweak you registry as follow:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813827
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Keep_Alive_Tools/

Good Luck!

Naser
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Will SzymkowskiSenior Solution ArchitectCommented:
Hello there,

Here are some suggestions that might help

http://info.theriver.com/support/dialup/connectionquality.html

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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
Is it possible to use a router to share the connection & keep it alive?? Connect the modem to the router??

I would rather not use ICS since I don't know which computers will be on all of the time, & there is always a chance of spyware & virus' on the host system. I seems more reliable to do this thru a router of some sort if possible.
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
>>"Connect the modem to the router??"
I assume your router does not have telephone or RS232 ports, so no. However, there are some routers that do have an RS232 port that is designed to be connected to an external modem, and most often used as a fail over connection if the DSL connection fails.
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x_X_x_X_xCommented:
I set this up before broadband was available in my area I just used one pc to make the actual connection and used ICS and changed the ip of the broadband router from 192.168.0.1 (because this is the ip ICS uses) to 192.168.0.2---and disabled the dhcp client in the router....Also I went to advanced in the dialup connection and specified for the pc to make a connection when a client requested anything from the internet.....This worked well for me? I have seen a few dialup routers try this?   http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005NBR6/qid=1107722034/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6134008-5969567?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A9B09ZK9BZJQ6&n=10931451&s=merchant&v=glance

Of course I'm not sure of any limitations this device may have?
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
Thanks, x_X_x_X_x!! This is what I use to do but you have it using the router. I may give this a try.

I'm sorry but the link took me to a SMC router that was not available. But I'm going to look into some of these with the backup dialup, like Rob suggested.

Thanks again!!
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
Here is one:
http://www.b2net.co.uk/multitech/multitech_routefinder_dialup_router.htm
I think US Robotics still have one as well. The SMC is one I am familiar with but as you found out no longer available.
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
Thanks Rob!!

I found the US Robotics USR8022 that, like the Multitech, has an serial port for an external modem. Which one would you choose?? I have used USR & Multitech stuff & it's a toss up for me. Has anyone had better luck with either????
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
I haven't used either of those, but have had great success with other product by both manufacturers. Couldn't say which is better. Try googling both with "review" in the search, see what you come up with.
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
Another question popped up last week at this client's office:
Are they going to have to sign up with an ISP if they go with the T1 connection?? If Verizon is servicing the T1, would they also provide them with internet access in such a way to take advantage of the multi-channeling & give them a decent bandwidth?? If not, could someone recommend a dialuip ISP that's reliable, easy to log into, & would possibly have the resources to handle several T1 channels calling in to increase bandwidth?? Just a little something to make the T1 a little more appealing.

Thanks for the truckload of info, guys!!!!
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
Chris, I think you  want your last comment in your other question;
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Routers/Q_21835886.html
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
Thanks Rob!! I think you are right on that. Sorry!!
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
I just received the Multitech dialup router & modem. I'm waiting to hear from the company that's giving an estimate on connecting the T1.
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
Let me know how you make out, curious.

Have you ever configured a Cisco device? It's a science in itself. Cisco routers and switches use their own operating system, which is all command line based. Not even close to something like DOS. It is a series of permissions, routing commands, and exceptions. Have a look at the routers or firewall forums to get an idea, such as in the link below (nothing to do with your scenario)
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Security/Firewalls/Q_21842075.html
Although good to have a basic conceptual understanding, you might want to try to have the supplier install. If you buy a SafeNet support contract with it I believe Cisco will log on remotely and help you to configure, and the fellows in the routers or firewall forums will help, but first one is a big project. I haven't done one. The few on my sites are looked after by Cisco CCNA's
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
Blinkr, did you end up getting your shared modem connection configured?
--Rob
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
No, not yet. I called a friend that works on phone systems. He is working on getting them a T1 line. It even looks like it may save them some money. The only problem maybe that the company that is setting up the T1 may not be able to configure the router stuff (the Cisco stuff that will allow them to connect to the internet). I don't have any skills with this stuff, so I maybe looking for someone to set it up.

Is it normal for the company that installs & sets up a T1 not to do anything to connect the client up to the internet?? He told me that they would host the connection & supply email accounts, but then he said that they didn't setup the internet connection. Does this sound weird to you??

Thanks!!
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
>>"Does this sound weird to you??"
Yes. The power company connects the power to your house, but won't hook up your stove  :-)
Here the installer has a sister company that does IT support, so they can arrange to have it configured for you.
--Rob
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
Sorry Blinkr, just noticed I said "yes" above. I think I was thinking Does this sound normal to you?, which, unfortunately it is.
I was curious as to what you would think of the dial-up routers. Oh well,  :-)  if going the T1 route I am sure you will be much happier with the performance.
If that is the case you should probably close this question.
Cheers !
--Rob
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
Will it hasn't happened yet, so if the price is too much for them, they still may want to connect via the modem & router. I would definitely lile to find someone that needs to do this. I'm as interested in how good it works as you are.

Thanks!!
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
If it goes that route let me know, I'd like to hear if those units work as well in practice as they do in theory. A fellow here in town told me about one a year ago that he had set up. He said it worked great but once a moth it would lock up and have to be powered off and on. I don't know what make it was.
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BlinkrAuthor Commented:
It appears that this client is going with a T1 line (or partial T1). So I don't think I will get a chance to try the modem & dialup router combo. If anything changes I will post back to this question.

Thanks for all of the info people!! This has got to be THE best place to get help on the internet AND the best place to learn. I know I have learned alot hanging out here. I hope I get smart enough someday to help others like I've been helped here!!
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Rob WilliamsCommented:
Thanks Blinkr,
--Rob
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