mzebari
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HP ZT1135 - Will not boot from CD or Floppy
I'm trying to install Windows XP on this ZT1135, but am unable to boot from both an external floppy and the internal CD-ROM.
First, the internal CD Drive:
Boot order in BIOS is set as CD->Floppy->HDD->LAN (You can not turn any of these off, just re-arrange them).
After POST, the screen I receive is as follows:
Boot CD-ROM Type: Non -Emulation Booting
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR
Invalid system disk
Replace the disk, and then press any key
I tried 3 or 4 different CD's, ranging from 2000 to XP Pro, all with the same results. I loaded the BIOS defaults, re-arranged teh boot order, adn tried again, with the same results.
External Floppy:
Boot order set as same as before (also tried with Floppy as first device)
After POST, there is quite a bit of activity on the floppy drive, but the screen I get is as follows:
Non Bootable CD in ATAPI CD-ROM
Invalid system disk
etc.
I tried a variety of system boot disks on different floppies as well.
What gives?
First, the internal CD Drive:
Boot order in BIOS is set as CD->Floppy->HDD->LAN (You can not turn any of these off, just re-arrange them).
After POST, the screen I receive is as follows:
Boot CD-ROM Type: Non -Emulation Booting
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR
Invalid system disk
Replace the disk, and then press any key
I tried 3 or 4 different CD's, ranging from 2000 to XP Pro, all with the same results. I loaded the BIOS defaults, re-arranged teh boot order, adn tried again, with the same results.
External Floppy:
Boot order set as same as before (also tried with Floppy as first device)
After POST, there is quite a bit of activity on the floppy drive, but the screen I get is as follows:
Non Bootable CD in ATAPI CD-ROM
Invalid system disk
etc.
I tried a variety of system boot disks on different floppies as well.
What gives?
Like zephr_hex suggested try using a bootable OS like BartPE or UBCD,
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
http://www.ubcd4win.com/
It sounds like the drive could be bad or dirty.
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
http://www.ubcd4win.com/
It sounds like the drive could be bad or dirty.
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Will try UBCD friday and leave results. Thanks for help so far!
>> Non Bootable CD in ATAPI CD-ROM << to me this means that it sees the cd, but cannot boot from it.
maybe the drive is bad - a bootable cd should boot (XP -2000) so i doubt it will boot from another.
the external floppy : is this an usb one, or another connector? an usb one will not boot.
maybe the drive is bad - a bootable cd should boot (XP -2000) so i doubt it will boot from another.
the external floppy : is this an usb one, or another connector? an usb one will not boot.
Run the HP Diagnostics for hardware.
To run the e-Diagtools diagnostic test:
1. Restart the notebook: click Start, Turn Off Computer, Restart.
2. When the HP logo appears, press F10 to start the diagnostic test.
3. When the menu appears, press Enter to run e-Diagtools. (The first time you run the program, you are prompted to select the language for the program.)
4. Follow the prompts to run e-Diagtools.
5. When the Configuration Description appears, verify the list of detected hardware.
6. Run the basic test. Press F2 to start the basic hardware test. The results appear when
the test is complete.
7. If you intend to exit without running the advanced tests, press F4 and then F7 to view
the Support Ticket. Press Esc and then F3 to exit.
8. Optional: Run the advanced tests. Press F2 to open the advanced test screen.
Let us know what the test results are.
To run the e-Diagtools diagnostic test:
1. Restart the notebook: click Start, Turn Off Computer, Restart.
2. When the HP logo appears, press F10 to start the diagnostic test.
3. When the menu appears, press Enter to run e-Diagtools. (The first time you run the program, you are prompted to select the language for the program.)
4. Follow the prompts to run e-Diagtools.
5. When the Configuration Description appears, verify the list of detected hardware.
6. Run the basic test. Press F2 to start the basic hardware test. The results appear when
the test is complete.
7. If you intend to exit without running the advanced tests, press F4 and then F7 to view
the Support Ticket. Press Esc and then F3 to exit.
8. Optional: Run the advanced tests. Press F2 to open the advanced test screen.
Let us know what the test results are.
ASKER
Still no luck - have tried every suggestion.
I can not get into HP diagnostics. The HP logo appears with Press F1 to enter setup, F10 for diagnostics, etc. I press F10, and nothing happens. It continues onto the "invalid system disk" screen.
I can not get into HP diagnostics. The HP logo appears with Press F1 to enter setup, F10 for diagnostics, etc. I press F10, and nothing happens. It continues onto the "invalid system disk" screen.
did you try resetting the notebook ? pg 29 from the manual :
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/lpi05595.pdf
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/lpi05595.pdf
mzebari,
were you successful in these efforts? let us know we'd like to help you out!
were you successful in these efforts? let us know we'd like to help you out!
ASKER
Well, keep the suggestions coming, because still no luck :(. I checked out the link tim_gui provided, but most of the is based on the assumption that you can boot from a floppy drive. (I only have a USB floppy drive accessible to me, and it does not work) I also reset the computer using the reset switch with no luck. I think I'm going to remove the CMOS battery for 5 minutes and see if that does anything.
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Nobus -
I tried what you suggested, and all went smoothly, except I receive the following when tryign to run setup:
This program cannot be run in DOS mode.
I tried what you suggested, and all went smoothly, except I receive the following when tryign to run setup:
This program cannot be run in DOS mode.
ok i forgot to mention you have to start with the command winnt.exe; so at your boot prompt, type cd i386
then, type winnt.exe
then, type winnt.exe
ASKER
Thank you Nobus!
no problem - is everything ok now? then please close the question
ASKER
sorry, as I was posting that answer, the setup began giving me problems. When I ran winnt, it copies the necesary setup files to the HDD, but then stops showing that anythign is being copied. The message saying "please wait while setup copies files to your hard disk is still" is still there, but it does not show any files being copied. That hard drive, however, is going nuts. The light HDD light flashes and I can hear it. After I waited about 30 minutes with no progress the first time, I rebooted, and it booted right into Windows setup. However, before anything was done, Windows told me it could not find the EULA agreement.
I'm back at the winnt screen now; going to wait a bit longer than 30 minutes and see if anything happens.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, but thank you very much for all the help so far.
I'm back at the winnt screen now; going to wait a bit longer than 30 minutes and see if anything happens.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, but thank you very much for all the help so far.
if it stops in the copying phase, i would suspect disk, disk controller, or ram problems
ram test : use memtest86+ for a couple of passes : http://www.memtest.org/
disk tets : use any of these : http://www.disk-utility.com/hard-disk-low-level-format.html
ram test : use memtest86+ for a couple of passes : http://www.memtest.org/
disk tets : use any of these : http://www.disk-utility.com/hard-disk-low-level-format.html
ASKER
Nobus - I let it copy overnight and it worked! Thanks alot!
no problem, glad you've got it working !
it doesn't sound like the issue is your boot order though... the error you posted "non bootable cd" shows that it is attempting to boot from something other than the hdd.
have you tried a bootable OS? windows OS cd's (2000 to xp) often ask you to hit a key to boot from the cd... why not try using a bootable OS like BartPE or UBCD?