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OpenOffice Writer - How to use a reference with numbering

I see how to set up and use a reference in Writer, but only if the reference points to text. What I want to do is insert text like "see number 22", where the 22 is a reference to a number in a numbered list.

I don't see any way to do this. I saw some postings on the web from back in 2004 that talked about making this easier in OpenOffice 2.

Is this possible?
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moorhouselondonCommented:
I presume that the reason why you want this is that the numbers in the numbered list can change when entries are moved around.

I reckon the best way to do this would be to create your numbered list first.  Then you would drag the mouse to select the field that contains the number you want to cross reference elsewhere.  Then you pull down Insert, choose Cross reference.  The Reference tab should be shown.  Choose Set Reference in the Type column.  Give your cross reference a name by typing it into the Name field (say Fred).  Click on Insert, it will then appear in the Selection column.

Now to refer to that cross reference elsewhere in your document, all you need do is to pull down Insert, choose Cross Reference, choose the Reference tab, then choose Type: Insert Reference, then click on Fred (which is in the middle column), then click the Insert button., then Close.
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jasimon9Author Commented:
This technique does not work. It would seem to work if the "drag the mouse to select" was referring to normal test. But the number of the number list seems like it cannot be selected.

I have tried this over and over and over, and it just does not work.

It seems strange to me, as this seems like one of the only types of things I have used cross-references for over a period of years in Microsoft Word. That is, using a number in a number list as the reference, as in "Please see #5."

And yes, it is exactly because the number itself will change frequently during the composition of the document.
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moorhouselondonCommented:
It is a bit like selecting a hyperlink, it can't be selected on its' own, but if a trailing space is selected first, then drag back across the "field", then this should trick OO to accept this as normal text.  There is the baggage of the trailing space, which is not satisfactory if say a period is to be placed after the reference in the text (as given in your example).  Thing to do is to report this requirement as desirable to the OO team: this is the best way to have it incorporated into the product.
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jasimon9Author Commented:
I have tried this many times now, even before asking the question, using the technique you describe. When I highlight in this way, set the reference, then insert the reference, the inserted reference seems to only pick up the space after the number.

So either I am doing something very different than you are, or I have a different version of Writer (I have 2.0.2)
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jasimon9Author Commented:
I should add that I am able to get this to work, but only if some additional text after the number and space are included in the reference, which is somewhat of a workaround.
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jasimon9Author Commented:
I take it back -- that only works because I have included the number itself in the text! Which defeats the purpose of using the numbering.

So I have something that looks like this:

    Here is some text that refers to another text (see 22. Item below)

    ...

    21. Stuff
    22. 22 Item

In this case I get the reference to be see "22. Item" because I have added the extra 22 into the text. Clearly not a useable workaround.
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moorhouselondonCommented:
It is not ideal, I agree.  I cannot think of any other method - other than creating your own style with the relevant fields embedded in it, but this is messy.
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moorhouselondonCommented:
(Our posts crossed.)
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jasimon9Author Commented:
Unhappy! :(

I posted something on the OOo forum, where the subject was discussed a long time ago.
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