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AGP enabled? And what RAM my mobo take? RAM incompatable?
Hello.
See this pic from PCWizard
http://www.grul.net/del/ramques1.gif
I have a 8x GeForce 5600XT but on that shot it seems to say AGP is not enabled?!
I recently bought two new RAM modules but I couldn't start the system with them. Says this on them:
PC2100R 512mb DDR PC2100 CL2.5 ECC
When inserted, the monitor would not come on (had a grey cross), but the system seemed to boot up, just no monitor. As soon as I put the old RAM in it worked fine.
See this pic from PCWizard
http://www.grul.net/del/ramques.gif
My question is, is the new ram incompatible with my system, or is it faulty? Is the RAM ECC and my system non-ECC? My original ram i believe are not ECC. Also, will 2 x 1GB modules work in my system? It says max module 512 and max memory 2048, but there are only 2 slots on the mobo?!... thanks, here's a link to a website with my mobo details...
http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/845GV-M.htm
(notice only 2 ram slots not 4 like it says on the PCWizard window)
P.S. I cant seem to remove the heatsink off the processor, it seems to be fixed on...I boght the PC from a store, do they lock it down so you cannot remove it?! I open the levels and twist and pull with no luck...
See this pic from PCWizard
http://www.grul.net/del/ramques1.gif
I have a 8x GeForce 5600XT but on that shot it seems to say AGP is not enabled?!
I recently bought two new RAM modules but I couldn't start the system with them. Says this on them:
PC2100R 512mb DDR PC2100 CL2.5 ECC
When inserted, the monitor would not come on (had a grey cross), but the system seemed to boot up, just no monitor. As soon as I put the old RAM in it worked fine.
See this pic from PCWizard
http://www.grul.net/del/ramques.gif
My question is, is the new ram incompatible with my system, or is it faulty? Is the RAM ECC and my system non-ECC? My original ram i believe are not ECC. Also, will 2 x 1GB modules work in my system? It says max module 512 and max memory 2048, but there are only 2 slots on the mobo?!... thanks, here's a link to a website with my mobo details...
http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/845GV-M.htm
(notice only 2 ram slots not 4 like it says on the PCWizard window)
P.S. I cant seem to remove the heatsink off the processor, it seems to be fixed on...I boght the PC from a store, do they lock it down so you cannot remove it?! I open the levels and twist and pull with no luck...
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Because you see, how can i test the ram if i cant get the system started? thanks.
I think it's pretty clear the new RAM is either incompatible with your motherboard or it can't run fast enough - PC2100 works with 133 FSB cpus, but not faster ones. Which cpu do you have? The motherboard supports running 400 FSB DDR, so if you have an 800 FSB cpu, it will be too fast for the RAM.
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The CPU is a celeron 2.4--a 133 FSB!
I already have two PC2100 sticks in, so i know it is compatable with them.
1) would you say it must just be incompatable with ECC ram (this is different from normal ram, right?)
2) Is it possible the ECC ram is faulty? (or is it more likely the above)
3) The website says max memory is 2GB in the 2 sockets, but PCWizard says max module size is 512Mb, must PCWizard be incorrect?
Thanks
I already have two PC2100 sticks in, so i know it is compatable with them.
1) would you say it must just be incompatable with ECC ram (this is different from normal ram, right?)
2) Is it possible the ECC ram is faulty? (or is it more likely the above)
3) The website says max memory is 2GB in the 2 sockets, but PCWizard says max module size is 512Mb, must PCWizard be incorrect?
Thanks
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Can any find the AGP driver for Asrock 845GV-M mobo / Intel 845GV chipset? Thanks.
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The only thing I can find is
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Home+Edition&lang=eng&strOSs=45&submit=Go%21
And it says not to be used with a 3rd party graphics card?!
I installed the lastest NVidia drivers for the card but still PCWizard is reporting AGP is not enabled...
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Home+Edition&lang=eng&strOSs=45&submit=Go%21
And it says not to be used with a 3rd party graphics card?!
I installed the lastest NVidia drivers for the card but still PCWizard is reporting AGP is not enabled...
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I think I have found the problem. In the manual:
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:TpxBkFdKcAIJ:download.asrock.com/manual/845GV-M.pdf+845GV-M+AGP&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2
It lists a specific set of graphics cards that are compatable...Last time I buy a cheap PC from a store!
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:TpxBkFdKcAIJ:download.asrock.com/manual/845GV-M.pdf+845GV-M+AGP&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2
It lists a specific set of graphics cards that are compatable...Last time I buy a cheap PC from a store!
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From the manual:
"AGI slot: The AGI 8X slot is a special design that only supports compatible AGPVGA cards. For the information of the compatible AGP VGA cards, pleaserefer to the “Supported AGP VGA Cards List” on page 7/8.
To install the system with an add-on AGP VGA card, you must makesure to install the driver of add-on AGP VGA card before you installthe onboard VGA driver. If the onboard VGA driver has already beeninstalled before you install the add-on AGP VGA card, the system willautomatically set the onboard VGA as the primary graphics adapter. Inthat case, if you want to install the add-on AGP VGA card, you needto remove the onboard VGA driver first, and then install the add-onAGP VGA card and its driver. For the detailed instruction, please referto the documents in the Support CD, “AGI Slot Installation Guide (forWindows 2000)” and “AGI Slot Installation Guide (for Windows XP)”,which are located in the folder at the following path:..\ Easy Dual Monitor"
That means I can ONLY use the listed cards on page 7?
"AGI slot: The AGI 8X slot is a special design that only supports compatible AGPVGA cards. For the information of the compatible AGP VGA cards, pleaserefer to the “Supported AGP VGA Cards List” on page 7/8.
To install the system with an add-on AGP VGA card, you must makesure to install the driver of add-on AGP VGA card before you installthe onboard VGA driver. If the onboard VGA driver has already beeninstalled before you install the add-on AGP VGA card, the system willautomatically set the onboard VGA as the primary graphics adapter. Inthat case, if you want to install the add-on AGP VGA card, you needto remove the onboard VGA driver first, and then install the add-onAGP VGA card and its driver. For the detailed instruction, please referto the documents in the Support CD, “AGI Slot Installation Guide (forWindows 2000)” and “AGI Slot Installation Guide (for Windows XP)”,which are located in the folder at the following path:..\ Easy Dual Monitor"
That means I can ONLY use the listed cards on page 7?
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I installed a new card that it says it does support but still PCWizzard says AGP is not enabled?! Is this a false report? Mobo is Asrock 845GV-M, but cant find a AGP driver for it, if it needs one. Is there another program or a way to check if AGP is enabled??? Thanks.
Give Everest http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html or Belarc http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html a try.
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OK it's showing up under AGP devices but how do I check if AGP is ENABLED? Thanks
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OK it says AGP Status disabled?! How the heck do i enable it. thanks
Did you check in the manual on pages 7/8 for the list of compatible VGA cards for this motherboard? I don't see a 5600XT there, so this may be the reason it's not enabled. There's a reason why the manufacturer provides a list.
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Yeah, I put a listed card in and still no luck. I'll try a different card, I'm ordering it today, i'll keep you posted... thanks
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Got the new card. An Asus Magic 9520, which according to the manual is supported. Still says AGP disabled in Everest. I'm DLing the latest drivers and will update soon. Thanks.
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I have looked around this site--aparantly there is a way to see if AGP is enabled in dxdiag--how is this done? I cant find anytihng about AGP in there...
It says here https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21033421/Why-is-AGP-disabled-how-do-I-enable-it.html?query=agp+disabled&clearTAFilter=true that:
"The problem with many of these older MB's was the lack of support for the AGP slot. Yes the AGP slot worked but most testing programs stated that it did not.
Since there isn't any updates available and none will be coming about all you can do is live with it "as is" or start saving to buy or build a better system"
So maybe these testing programs are reporting it wrong. What do i look for in DXDIAG to see if AGP is really enabled?
It says here https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21033421/Why-is-AGP-disabled-how-do-I-enable-it.html?query=agp+disabled&clearTAFilter=true that:
"The problem with many of these older MB's was the lack of support for the AGP slot. Yes the AGP slot worked but most testing programs stated that it did not.
Since there isn't any updates available and none will be coming about all you can do is live with it "as is" or start saving to buy or build a better system"
So maybe these testing programs are reporting it wrong. What do i look for in DXDIAG to see if AGP is really enabled?
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By the way there is nothing referenceng AGP Controller in my System Devices in Device Manager...
I think the reason this is all happening is because this board does not have a true AGP slot. http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/845GV-M.htm says it's a "Worldwide patent A.G.I.8X graphics upgrade slot (AGP8X/4X compatible)", not an AGP slot.
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But I tried both the ECC modules in... and just the grey screen? Any thoughts? Faulty ram?