Netware 6.5 SBS hardware and Misc Questions

Posted on 2006-05-16
Last Modified: 2008-02-01
There are a bunch of things going on with this small network and I hope I have not gone off on too many tangents with the way things are set up.
I am setting up a small Netware 6.5 Small Business Suite server that will start with about 10 users and might go to as many as 25.
It will be used primarily for file services internally plus some access from the Internet.
We develop software for a niche market and the programmer has been using PcAnywhere to upload files to a PC in house where we then test it and package it for download and upload it to an offsite server that has more bandwidth than our T1. I want the programmer to directly access the Novell Server to upload the software to start keeping files more central.
Can I restrict access to specific external IP addresses and if so how. We are considering allowing some of our sales distributors to directly access the server also so I want to lock down what external computers can log on to our network.
Other servers on the Internal network include:
1)      A Linux based WebServer (which I am considering changing to the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server from Novell, apparently the SBS license also entitles us to a license for SLES). We use this to host our websites and sometimes to upload files to for someone to download where we are not concerned about multiple downloads at once impacting our T1 bandwidth.
2)      A Windows 2003 Server. This will be used for testing using the dotnetfx 2.0 ability to update files for the software we develop. We currently have our clients download the whole software package when there is an update and we want them to be able to update only the changed files (Which will be a separate question on EE as we have not done it before). The intent is to use this primarily for proof of concept and then move the function to the offsite server with more bandwidth.
Some other factors/questions include:
There are actually 2 Internet connections here. One is the T1 and the other is a fairly fast DSL. We use them for different purposes (VOIP, up/downloads, Internet access, hosting websites) and also so that just by changing the gateway IP we can still have Internet access if one connection is down. All the printers are networked by assigning Static IP Addresses so no need for Netware print services.
My questions come down to
1)      General critique/recommendations of how we are setup for what we are doing.
2)      Recommendations for a motherboard for the Novell 6.5 that would support SATA Raid (we plan on doing a hardware based mirror using 2 drives) and hopefully have SCSI on board for support tape backup. I have a 2U case I want to put it in. We do have an Adaptec 1420SA which should support Netware but onboard would be simpler. I figure 1GB RAM and 2.4GHZ or higher would handle our needs.
3)      Alternate backup solution recommendations appreciated.

TIA for your help
Question by:emery_k
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    You  have it  kinda backwards. It's "Novell SBS" and it's "NetWare 6.5", not vice-versa.  The  company is named Novell, the suite contains several Novell products including the OS called NetWare.

    As to your questions:  

    1)  You're underutilizing the Novell Small Business Suite.  You should  use one of the five instances of NetWare that comes  with the  Small Business Suite to set up a BorderManager server to a) provide a DMZ for your web server and  for another NetWare server to house  your GWIA,  GWWA and VirtualOffice and  b) act as the  server side of a client/server VPN  to provide remote access beyond what you'd get from VO (which with iFolder and NetStorage should give your programmer all  the file transfer access to the NetWare server he needs.)   Not using NDPS/iPrint just because you can print directly to them is also quite wasteful, and silly to boot, since you end up using your local Windoze spooler, dogging your system until printing is done, and having to sit & wait if the printer's busy when you want to print to it.  Besides that, you can use iPrint to securely print across the Internet - which you can't do with direct  IP printing. NDPS/iPrint can serve as either an LPD or IPP print server for your Linux machines, too.

    2) I recommend  you go for  'YES  Certified' hardware.  Here's the search engine:

    You can do a search of any hardware you want for any Novell product you want.  Start by using the keywords  "SATA"  type of "host bus adapter" and select NetWare 6.5.   It'll give you a list  of the SATA RAID devices that have been  "YES" certified  for NetWare 6.5.    Pretty much any SATA RAID controller based  on ICH7R or ICH6R should be safe,  but make sure you use  the latest NW6.5 SP5 overlay ISO's to install from.

    3) for backup,  I'd like to recommend BrightStor ARCserve 11.5, but I'm not happy with it lately.  You should avoid Symantec products, IMHO. Whatever you  use, make sure it will work with the Novell TSA's  (TSANDS, TSAFS) to  get all the extended attributes and trustee rights,  and a good backup of  eDirectory.
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    What he said... :-)
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    I know we're only using a fraction of what the SBS can do. I've been a NetWare fan for years (first server 20+ years ago was a Televideo PM4T with NetWare before it was called NetWare. Still have 2 in a pile in the basement.), and been impressed with Netware's stability (loved the `Server 54 where are you' story). Installed versions from 2 through 6 over the years (boxes of red disks/manuals in the basement also). It's been a couple of years since I last set one up so I am asking questions before I start.
    We have about a dozen IP addresses with the T1 so I'd considered using different IPs for the different Servers.
    I don't know how the Micro$oft Netware client works with NetWare print services. The few minutes I looked at it one time I had the impression it did not recognize NetWare printers. We are using Goldmine, which apparently has an issue with the Novell client and recommends using the MS NetWare client. I could keep that on the Windows server but had hoped to move all data files to Novell.
    The owner works from home and also his office here so I also wanted him to be able to login and see the same network drives from either location.
    I've been impressed with Arcserve the times I've used it. The client understands it better than something like Tapeware by Yosemite.
    (I am also dealing with a situation where the whole approach was inappropriate and cluttered etc. The existing W2k being used as a server is on hardware that is more appropriate being used with Novell and there is a 1U server in house that is more appropriate as a Windows Server. A previous `expert' had the W2003 server changed to W2K because he liked that better and now there is a real need for a Windows server to distribute updates to their software based on dotnetfx v2.o.)
    Hope this clarifies more of the background and my approach. I'm also deciding whether to tackle this myself or see if there is a way to have someone remotely access the server to help me finalize things.

    Your comments are appreciated
    I'll leave this open for a while in case there are additional comments
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    The client for NetWare that comes with Windows is a piece of crap.  Don't use it.  It only does IPX, and is otherwise brain-dead.  Unless you really, really want to have IPX in your network, forget that noise.

    Goldmine tech support are morons.  Just set it up to not use Oplocks and the GoldMine database will be fine.  The problem isn't the Novell client, it's sharing the desktop-class database GoldMine is based on (dBase, IIRC) with Opportunistic Locking enabled.

    Always install the Novell Client32 custom, not "typical," select only one protocol (preferably TCP/IP), NDS and not Bindery, and only select the optional components you have or will use.  If you will be performing administrative functions on a workstation, install NICI.  Don't install NMAS unless you're planning to use any of the NMAS methods.

    After it's installed, go into the client32 properties, Advanced Settings tab, and set "file caching" to "off" and "file commit" to "on."  That will fix the GoldMine shared-database issue.

    You should also have the following set commands in your servers' autoexec.ncf file (usually at the top of the file):

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    What he said.. :-)
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    >>The owner works from home and also his office here so I also wanted him to be able to login and see the same network drives from either location.<<

    BorderManager client-to-site VPN for the "at home" scenario.
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    To clarify what product I am working with
    The CD says `Novell Small Business Suite V6.6' in Red at the top
    On the right it says 1Netware 6.5 Cd 1 Operating System with SP3'

    I am finally getting time to start setting this up to get familiar with it.

    During the install it wants the driver for the RAID controller which is on a floppy that I can read on multiple computers and even copy the drivers to the dos partition on the novell server.
    The problem is during the install when I try to add the driver for the storage device and tell it to look on the floppy it seems to detect a driver but the `Seclect a driver to install' screen just comes up with a blank line and does not list the driver it found. The .ham and .ddi files are on the floppy

    Any suggestions
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    What RAID controller driver is it - and is it for NetWare 6.x?  

    Are you using the original, boxed install CD's?  You should download the latest overlay image .iso's and burn 'em to CD, and install from them.  NetWare 6.5 is at SP5 now.  

    SBS uses the same OS and product install set as full-blown NetWare - it's just different licensing.  Same for the add-on products - GW, BM, ZEN - those can be installed with product + SP overlays if they're available for download, and it's the licensing - not the media that you're installing from - that identifies it as part of the suite and not separate full products.
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    There's all sorts of good advice here.  Maybe PAQ-no-refund?

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