DNS: same IP, 2 different domains, 2 different routes

Posted on 2006-05-16
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Last Modified: 2013-12-07
I have a server with several websites on it. If I trace route any of those domains, I get the same path as when I trace the IP ( Now if I trace mcguirksand.com, I get something totally different. The trace gets stuck in a loop at hop 19

19    70 ms    71 ms    73 ms  dist1-vlan30.sndg02.pbi.net []
20    70 ms    70 ms    70 ms  rback16-g1-0.sndgca.sbcglobal.net []
21    97 ms    70 ms    71 ms  dist2-vlan50.sndg02.pbi.net []
22    70 ms    91 ms    83 ms  rback16-g1-0.sndgca.sbcglobal.net []
23 ...

Also when I ping mcguirksand.com I get this:
Pinging mcguirksand.com [] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from TTL expired in transit.

What could cause this? If DNS is in fact returning, then the route from my network to the server should be the same no matter what domain I query to get the IP!?
I do not manage the DNS for this domain, so that limits testing options.
Question by:LogicLoader
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rich255 earned 1000 total points
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IP you are getting for mcguirksand.com is different than the one you used for the original trace.  The second octet is different.

Your DNS server has a bad record.


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Oh, the third is different too... somebody made a typo!

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mcguirksand.com.= = adsl-66-126-216-13.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net.
forward and reverse lookups don't match.

>Also when I ping mcguirksand.com I get this:
>Pinging mcguirksand.com [] with 32 bytes of data:
>Reply from TTL expired in transit.
Is normal if there is a FW inbetween you.

Could be a routing problem, or DNS problem, somoenoe else advertising the mcguirksand.com

Don't trace to a DNS name, do a nslookup on the domain, and trace to that IP see if you still get the same symptoms.

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The external DNS servers that are authoritative for the mcguirksand.com are listing as the IP for mcguirksand.com.  That IP is not the same as what you trace to when tracing to your website names or to

The autoritative DNS servers for mcguirksand.com are:

ns2.michix.net  internet address =
ns1.michix.net  internet address =

Those are the folks to contact.  Tell them to switch the 2nd and third octets in their A record for mcguirksand.com.

The TTL expired message is just because of the routing loop.

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Holy !@#$
Had a lot going on yesterday. I didn't even notice that. I'm so used to seeing the IP, that at a glance those IPs looked the same.

The routing loop was a red herring, so I didn't even notice.


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