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What's a good backup solution other than BackupExec for an SBS 2003 server for a small business?

I'm looking for something less pricey than BE but something that is hopefully fairly intuitive to use and reliable. Thanks!
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Windows Backup tool.  There's nothing wrong with it and works pretty well.  
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
ok, there is something wrong with it but there's a patch available.
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NJComputerNetworksCommented:
Arcserve is a good 3rd party solution
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Problem is Arcserve and BackupExec cost about the same
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WineGeekAuthor Commented:
Lee, unless I'm missing something, the problem with the built-in Windows backup utility is that it does not provide sufficiently detailed error reporting, and I believe it also has some serious scheduling limitations as well as being unable to properly backup SQL & Exchange. but I could be wrong.....

So from what you all are telling me my opinion is to maybe just stick with BE. I don't like ArcServe.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
You do realize the Windows backup tool is actually oem'd from Veritas/Symantec.

The built in backup tool does not support software compression (not a big deal if you use a tape drive with hardware compression).
The backup does not support brick-level backups but it DOES do Exchange backups - and those backups empty the exchange logs, which is important.
There is no direct built in support for SQL databases, but that's not a problem - configure a database backup in SQL and have it backup to a file.  Then the Windows backup will backup that file.  Alternatively, setup a script and STOP the SQL server.  Then backup will backup the mdf and ldf SQL files and at the end of the job, include a script to restart SQL.

None of these "inconveniences" are, at least to me, a big deal.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
As for the logs, it creates logs of relative detail - it outlines the files it couldn't backup up.  Run some tests and review the logs.
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WineGeekAuthor Commented:
Yeah, I'm looking at the log now troublshooting a real error. All it's telling me is that it cannot find the media or backup device. Those are two very different sources of problems and the event log on the server has nothing in it related to these Backup errors. This is what I meant by insufficient reporting. I like the idea of using the built-in backup utility, but it's just not sufficient in many cases in my opinion.  But thank you for your input.  :)
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Does this help you any?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831664

(I don't use tape often on small systems - external hard drives are far more economical and in my opinion reliable).
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NJComputerNetworksCommented:
How about this commvault product... its cheaper..  http://www.commvault.com/data_protection.asp?sid=10133
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stafiCommented:

using windows backup is not recommended for mission critical servers. yet if budget is low you can check this:

http://www.backupassist.com/index.html
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WineGeekAuthor Commented:
Yes Lee, I"m about to install an external hard drive for this small business client. I agree, they' arre better than tapes for several reasons. Thanks.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I'm not saying NTBackup is the best tool out there... but it's perfectly functional.  Could you provide a link to a publication by Microsoft or a reputable IT publication stating that Windows backup was not recommended?
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orestyle1Commented:
Veritas Backup Exec 9.0 seems to work ok.  Also, there is some software that work to backup Windows machines as well as Linux machines (AMANDA, Bacula, Backuppc, etc.)  Sounds kinda round about, but you could set up a simple linux machine with Samba then have some advanced backup software such as AMANDA run and backup your windows boxes.  All your out is some time.  But you learn another valuable trade by learning linux.  
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