Ok I am taking the plunge to try to keep ahead and downloaded the express edition. I have the 2005 pro edition ordered and will be here soon. I noticed a strange quirk in the tab control. I have the main form as a color of Alice Blue, I then add a tab control and do a full dock in the center. The color of the individual tab pages are "transparant". I also have a status bar at the bottom that is "transparant". The tab pages come up with a grey color even when they are set to "transparant" but the status bar goes Alice Blue as expected. Of course the tab control itself has no color properties I can see. Also how in the @#&@* do you bring up the normal Form Generated Code ? I had to generate a huge error before I could get it to show up. Then after I close it, I could not bring it up again. This should be something that is always there IMO.