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I bought a new 160G HD for an older Athlon 700 box.  The old HD was only 30G and was full.  I'm running XP.

I've installed the 160 as Disk 0, Primary Master, and the 30 as Disk 1, Primary Slave.  I see the 30 under Computer Management> Storage, it says "healthy," but it has no drive letter and I can't see it from My Computer or Windows Explorer.

I searched around and found out about DiskPart.  I can see the 30G in the disk list (it's disk 1) and in the volume list (it's volume 3), but diskpart won't let me do an assign.  It complains.

I looked at help for diskpart and found that you can't use assign for a boot disk.  Well, the 30 still has the old MBR on it.

I've looked all over the web and many people have this same issue (i.e. wanting to copy files from their old drive onto their new drive) and the solution is always, "just install the old drive as a slave on your new machine."

So what am I doing wrong, or am I doomed because of the MBR?

Thanks.

Al.
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Did you remember to change the drive jumper to Slave (if it is on the same cable.

Did you install XP on the new drive with the old drive disconnected
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I would like to know the size and numbers of partitions u have created of the new 160GB HD and also the size of the partition which has XP on it.

Why dont u make the old 30GB HD as the PM and 160GB HD as PS and then try what u see and if u can copy ur stuff on the new HD.

Also, have u installed Norton GoBack on ur old 30GB HD.
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Forgot to mention one more thing is the jumper setting of the old HD.. as u mentioned it was PM before so check out the jumper settings..

May be u can just set the jumpers to Cable Select for both the HDs and can check in BIOS what is being detected.
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In diskpart, did you set the disk as "online"?
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coral47: yes, changed jumpers and yes, they share a cable and yes, XP was installed while the 30G drive cable was disconnected; actually, I first installed Win98 and then XP because my XP is only an update.  I called and asked MS support if there was a way around it, but their offshore lackey said no.  I've since read from another forum that the XP install will prompt you for proof, at which time you insert your win98 CD.

logic0004: I have two partitions on each drive; the 160G has a 127G partition, which is "Healthy (System)" and another 21G partition that is unallocated.  The 30G drive has a 27.94G partition that's "Healthy (Active)" and another 16M partition that's unallocated.

Each of the two "Healthy" partitions have XP loaded on them.

Actually, I probably can't boot from the 30 anymore.  See below...

Why, yes, I do have Roxio GoBack installed on the 30G, and I just installed it on the 160G.

DISKPART> list volume

Volume #   Ltr  Label    Fs     Type      Size   Status   Info
Volume 0    E                     CD-ROM    0B
Volume 1    F                     CD-ROM    0B
Volume 2    C            NTFS Partition 128G    Healthy System
Volume 3                  NTFS Partition  28G     Healthy
Volume 4    D                   Removable 0B
Volume 5    G                   Removable 0B
Volume 6    H                   Removable 0B
Volume 7    I                    Removable 0B
Volume 8    J                    Removable 0B

As you might have guessed, GHIJ are a media reader; D happens to be a SCSI Zip Drive.

Now, when I do:


DISKPART> select volume=3

Volume 3 is the selected volume.

DISKPART> assign letter=K

The volume you specified is not valid, or does not exist.  Use the 'refresh' command to refresh your information.


Refresh does not help.

Here's an odd thing that's maybe related.  Just before I installed the 160G drive, I tried to copy and .zip about 5G of files from the 160G drive (initially, I tried to add the 160G as the slave and mount it's partitions onto empty directories of the 30G, but the dirs I wanted were shared and special, so that failed).  I only had about 3.5G of space left on the 30G, but I figured that WinZip would be able to cram it on there.  I started the zipping and left to do errands.  When I got back, the system had tried to reboot, but was asking for a bootable floppy.  I could not get it to boot from the 30G anymore.

It's not that the data on the 30 is irreplaceable.  I had copied everything onto CD-R's, but I would much rather copy disk-to-disk than stuff more than a dozen CD-R's into the machine.

korz
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Goback, at least if that is the goback of symantec that does something similar to windows' XP System restore, is a bad idea in my point of view. With that installed you'll have all kinds of problems with disks, and usually 3rd party tools won't be able to use them either. First try removing that utility. Check the symantec site to get it completly removed.
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download and burn a cd with knoppix - when you boot from it, it will let you access the drive and data :
www.knoppix.org
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Well, I've fixed it.  The solution was simpler than any of us thought.

When I installed the much-malined GoBack, I hadn't yet rebooted, because I was online posting here.  After I rebooted, GoBack went into action to set up it's monitoring of file changes and found that the 30G drive had some "problems," so it ran chkdsk on it.  Chkdsk fixed all the problems on the 30G drive and when the system came up, the 30G drive was there in My Computer, as disk G:.

Problem solved, alas, how do I allocate points...

I will ask leew.

By the way, I've been using GoBack for more than a decade and I swear by it, especially for this machine that's used by the kids.  They have a tendency to mess the machine up... not system files, but, say, deleting all the shortcuts from the desktop or moving a game's data files to a different game's directory.  GoBack fixes these kinds of irritating problems in minutes rather than hours.  I've never had a problem with GoBack and it is far more powerful than Restore because Restore pretty much only deals with system files.
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Its good to know that u have fixed ur problem and it was quite a simple solution...
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Since it figured itself out, you can ask to delete this question.
Post a zero-point question in http://www.experts-exchange.com/Community_Support/ 
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Body: Please delete this question and Refund Points.
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Thanks.

 
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go ahead
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ditto
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