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What is a Good Video Card for DFI Motherboard (CA64-TC/TN) with video editing and DVI Monitor Connection in Mind?

Greetings,

I have computer with a DFI Motherboard (CA64-TC/TN) and would like to upgrade the Graphic/Video Card to one that is compatible with the board but will support video editing and also has a DVI connection for an LCD monitor.

I would like the best the board can support. Can anyone make a recommendation?

I am relatively "hardware challenged," so I really need a-z guidance here.

Thanks.

regards,

stevenjs

P.S. I just read an article on the Sapphire ATI X1600PRO Graphics Card. Would this work for the above requirements?
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Jbirk1Commented:
Hi,

It appears you have a Pentium 3 Motherboard that takes AGP 2X or 4X cards.  With this in mind, you can buy the best AGP card that will work in 4X mobo.

This appears to be your motherboard:
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_spec_details_r_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=1151&CATEGORY_TYPE=MB&SITE=US

This is a slow motherboard that uses slow memory and can only take an older 4X AGP card.  It is based off the VIA ChipSet.

You can get any and I mean any AGP 2X or 4X card.  I would go with an NVidia Chipset Card.

The best is probably the NVIDIA 7800 Chipset.

Here is an example of a very high end card:
http://evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=256-A8-N509-AX&family=22

That card supports AGP 8X , but should probalby work with 4X too.  I would double check with EVGA first though.  It may be more economical to go with something more like an NVIDIA FX 5200 or an FX 5500.  Either way, NVIDA cards seem to be a bit nicer than the ATI cards in my opinion.

I honestly wouldn't recomend you pay $350 on an AGP video card for a motherboard that doesn't even support AGP 8X.  It seems like the card will only run at half the speed.  I honestly would not spend more than $120 for that board.

If you really want to buy a very high end graphics card, buy a new motherboard that supports PCI-Express and buy a PCI-E card.  A medium range card would be an NVIDIA 6600 Chipset Card.

This card is from the 6 series and is a mid-range card.  I honestly don't think you will get a lot more video performance going with a high end 7800 card with your motherboard.

If you go with a new PCI-Express board, you can run multiple cards.  It is not uncommon for people with cash to waste to go buy an extremely high end nForce 4 board that supports SLI (Scalable Link Interface) then dump about $1000 on 2 Nvidia 7900 GTX Cards and connecting them together in SLI.  That is left for the insane though.

Justin
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stevenjsAuthor Commented:
Justin, thank you for your thoughtful response.

I am a little overwhelmed though.

Can you boil this down for me?

What is a suitable 4X AGP card around $120 that permits video capture/editing and has a DVI connection for an LCD monitor?

egards,

stevenjs
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
@stevenjs...video editing capability on a Pentium III will be excruitiatingly slow.
Here's a 4x/8x AGP with SVGA & DVI $35.99
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
If you want to edit video...get a Pentium IV computer.
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stevenjsAuthor Commented:
irwin,

Thanks, but you left out the link to the card. Also, I need to be 100% sure the 4x/8x will work with the 2x/4x motherboad.

I'll be upgrading the computer in six months or so, if all goes well. I need a stopgap in the meantime. I'd intend the LCD monitor to work better with the new computer at that point.

You are right about slow, but video was being edited before Pentium IV, and I am a patient guy. ;-)

egards, (i rather like this typo ;-)

stevenjs
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
Whoops.. thought I copied that link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814145095

Well. I've been editing on a P2-P3..and compared to a P43ghz..I'm spoiled.

..and then you can think.. patience is a virtue.
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stevenjsAuthor Commented:

one makes a virtue of necessity. but that's for another question, not on computer hardware ;-)

the question was whether I can be 100% sure this 4x/8x will work with the 2x/4x motherboard?

unlike opening monitors, i have managed to install a card or two, I just need to know which will work, one i can afford, together with the cost of the LCD. I can live with slow editing for six months, as long as editing is a viable option.  

thanks for your help.

regards,

stevenjs
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Jbirk1Commented:
Yes, a 4x/8x card has a 99.9% chance of working in your 2X/4X motherboard.  Please keep in mind though if you upgrade the video card now and the motherboard, memory, and CPU later, you may be wasing the money for the video card becuause newer motherboards are going to be PCI-Express not AGP.

This means the card you buy now you may be throwing away in several months.

A good enough video card is probably the NVIDIA FX5500.  You should be able to manage to get this easily for under $120.

Newegg has it for $54 after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130197

How about this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130262

It will work with very well.
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
If you can live with tossing $35.99+shipping into the rubbish can after using the product after 6 months..then that will be a good buy
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stevenjsAuthor Commented:
I can live with the loss of $40 over 6 months, if I it means I can have an LCD monitor that works reasonably well with the DVI connection during that time.

But I am not entirely convinced the 4x/8x will work. I ran a Google on "4X AGP card" and found this discussion: http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/Will_an_8x_AGP_video_card_work_in_a_4x_AGP_slot

It seems there's a voltage discrepancy and the 4x/8x will not run as well as the 2x/4x, though just what this degraded performance means I have no idea.

Does no one make a 2x/4x AGP that has the DVI connection??

Also, the mother board does have 1 PCI slot left, is it possible to use one of those instead of the board's AGP slot for the video card?

regards,

stevenjs
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
You will want to use the AGP slot for video... faster througput than PCI buss.

As for the comments made in the forum...notice 20+ versus 4?

Theoretically it shoudl work.. .but that is all dependant on the structure of the motherboard..   New Egg has a return policy.  Considering the degraded performnance.. I'll throw this at you...

"How fast can you blink your eye"? the difference if any would be negligable.
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Jbirk1Commented:
When you put the card in, it should work with degraded performance.

Essentially the 8x Card will work at 4X speeds; hence, degraded performance.

The motehrboard is left with 2 choices when you put the card in:

1.  It can try really really hard and sync the AGP Bus with the Card and push a video signal and then boot properly.

2.  It can start beeping at you and making noises letting you know it isn't happy.

Justin
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Irwin SantosComputer Integration SpecialistCommented:
cool. thank you!
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Jbirk1Commented:
No problem.  Keep us in the loop how it works for you.

Justin
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