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Can't run games

I have a computer:

3.2 Ghz pentium xeon.  
1 GB 533 ECC buffered ram.  (@x 512)
Tyan s2672
ATI Radeon x800 xt

It runs great until running games.  Games seem to crash the computer within a few minutes of play.
Games which I know crash it are:

Heroes of Might and Magic 5
and
Quake 4

If I am not mistaken HoMM is DX and Q4 Open GL.  Could this be a heat problem with the xeon?
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All drivers are current.  Games are current, and updates are current.  The system runs perfectly well until
these games are ran.  Even then it runs fine for a little while, 5-10 minutes.  The crashes are not at any
specific time so it isn't something triggering an error.

The system install is clean, firewall is good, no internet play, anti virus is good.

The video card seems to be working alright.  I am wondering however about the xeon as the software
TSM (Tyan system monitor) doesn't seem to work.  It doesn't let me check the temperatures.  The software
is very odd, asks for a username/password yet I don't have one.  Tried Windows passwords as the site asked
to no luck.  Tried signing on to localhost as is expected for local testing, no luck.
how about opening your case up (temporary)... let a good flow of air into your system (like placing a fan to blow in your computer).

does the system play longer?  I'm thinking something is overheating.
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I don't have the system with me right now.  It seems to me something is hot as well, I am just looking for
some thought and ideas to think about for when I am back with the system.
if my out of the box test works.. then invest in a bunch of case fans
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My computer is built fine, it is all compatible.
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The memory is fine, and if there were a memory problem it should throw an exception, my problem
is with restarts.
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The power supply is 600 watt, and running just the one processor.  And liek I said, I am not around the PC to check the memory.
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The video card is all hooked up properly.  I have even tried switching the connector which powers it.
dxdiag has been run, but only direct draw, I can try d3d later.

you can try some benchmark program like 3dmark or sisoft sandra

if your pc reboots even with that you should look more to the hard/software side,

if it doesnt reboot then, you have to check more at the software/software side (compability etc)
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Mark, I know there is a problem with the hardware.  I also know that it is not an interface problem.  It
is specifically hardware.  I am coming here simply for some suggestions on what hardware may be wrong
with the given conditions.  At current, I believe it is a processor overheat issue, however, I will have to look
into it further to be sure.  I am unable to do any testing of any sort at current as well, so I am simply looking
for ideas on what hardware would cause such conditions for when I am able.
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Nobus, the bios on the Tyan s1672 does not feature a temperature read.  And the software included
to read temperatures is not properly working.  It gives you a login screen which I have been unable
to get through.  Even reading the Tyan FAQ pages on this have been of no help.

(Even with a bios upgrade there is no read-out)
Then i suggest a "manual" reading : use a normal thermometer, tape it to the heatsink as cloce to the cpu as possible to have an "idea" of the cpu temperature.
Bear in mind that, if the heat transfer is not as it should be, you can have big differences between cpu and heatsink

did you try EVEREST :  http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html      ??
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I will look into that, no I have never even herad of it.  I still can't believe that a server board would not feature temp read-outs in the bios though.
there are realtime sensors, look at section 4.3.2 :
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s2672_100.pdf
did you check with Everest? does it display the cpu temp?
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Everest, I checked on this current computer, it does not seem to have any option for CPU temperature.

As for that link, that is simply a copy of the manual, and if you notice, as in the manual the top of the page
specifies that it is for the S2676 not the S2672.  Which is part of the problem, it appears there is nothing
for the S6272 to do it except for the software which has a logon screen which seems impossible to pass though
for checking the temperatures.
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All I see offered for temperatures by the program is:

GPU
GPU Ambient
and HDDs
the link says s 2672 though
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The book is for both the 2672 anfd the 2676.  That section is only for the 2676.
ok - sorry, i missed that.
you can always shut down the pc after some time, and measure the cpu temp with a normal thermometer as is suggested - if they give no sensors, it's difficult to have a measurement.
cool.. thank you!