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Moving Public Folders

Hi,

I have a situation where i have 2 Exchange 2003 servers in my administrative domain. The primary server is no longer working very well (its SMTP connector was removed and reinstalled and since then it wont work properly) So to keep everything running i have installed a second exchange server which i have moved all the mailboxes to, and have routed the email to this new server and everything is working fine.

I want to decommission the first email server and reinstall IIS and Exchange on it and migrate everything back onto it again. I have followed all of Microsofts Notes on setting up replication of the public folders between the servers so that my Contacts and Various Distribuion Group Public Folders will copy onto the new server. This isnt working and the old server has not sent anything to the new server? My Offline Address Book has also not replicated accross to the new server yet which is giving me "Object cannot be found" errors in Outlook when users send and receive.

My question is this:

Can i shutdown both exchange servers after hours and just copy the pub1.edb and pub1.stm database files to the new server and start up exchange on it again? Will this work to move all this data accross?

Regards,

Paul
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rakeshmiglaniCommented:
PF replication takes place via the SMTP messages.
I have not tried moving the public database from one server to another and mounting it
PF can be exported to a pst and then imported on the other server. I have done that and it works
Regarding the system folders, OAB can be generated again.
And the Free/Busy information is stored in the mailbox so that can also be generated by using the updatefb.exe tool
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SembeeCommented:
Physically moving the public folder database will almost certainly not work. Exchange is very picky about its databases.

Exchange 2003 PF replication is usually very quick. I would look to see whether anything is getting in the way of the replication messages.

The two major causes are
1. A smart host configured on the SMTP VS.
2. AV quarantining the replication messages.

Use message tracking on both servers to see whether the replication messages are being sent across.

Simon.
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san_swaCommented:
You can export the PST of Public Folders from Outlook, however you would lose all the permissions.
So, before doing that step, use PFDAVADMIN Tool, export the permissions and take pst's and import it back after restoration is done.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=635BE792-D8AD-49E3-ADA4-E2422C0AB424&displaylang=en

Incase you are planning to decommission the first Exchange Server, then you might also have to reset the System folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=822444

You may do the fork lifting of the pub database but it is not recommended. Safest way would be to take pst and import it back.
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skaap2kAuthor Commented:
Sembee,

1. I have no Smarthosts configured on the SMTP VS.
2. Antivirus isnt quarantining the replication messages

In Message Tracking When i look at the old server (the one that had its SMTP connector removed and then reinstalled) It has a Message Tracking for Sender " Public Folder Store" but when i open it it only has 1 event
"06/06/2006 12:10 SMTP Store Driver: Message Submitted from Store"  and no further entries. So it looks like it isnt moving the data accross (it is missing some steps)

-Paul
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SembeeCommented:
The comment about SMTP in the original question is a little troubling.
You have stated that the server hasn't worked correctly since the SMTP Connector was removed and reinstalled.

SMTP Connectors can be removed and recreated quite easily without any issues. Are you sure that you don't mean the SMTP Service? Public Folder replication goes across on SMTP traffic, so if there is a problem with SMTP then the replication would be affected as well.

Simon.
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skaap2kAuthor Commented:
hahaha ... Yes it was very troubling. I am sorry i didnt mean to use the incorrect term - the SMTP service was removed and reinstalled. That is what affected my Exchange in the first place - so in order to fix that i have installed a new exchange server and moved my mailboxes to the new server.

THis will allow me to fix the old server whilst the users are unaware of the changes. Most of my public folders arent a problem - as the guys above have mentioned i can use a PST file and move a lot of the data and recreate new ones on the new exchange server. But certain Items such as Offline Address book etc i would like to replicate and i was wondering if there was anyway around the problem?

Can I either fix the SMTP Service issue (which i was told i couldnt) or somehow copy the neccesary folders accross or possibly recreate the folders on the new server so that i can remove the old server and start from fresh again?

Your help on this would be most appreciated.

-Paul
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SembeeCommented:
Reinstalling SMTP on a server with Exchange installed should not be attempted. Exchange makes changes to the standard SMTP service.

You might get away with reinstalling Exchange (by that I mean choosing the option "reinstall" from Add/Remove programs) which should reapply the changes to Exchange.

Otherwise it is bite the bullet, make the changes as if the replication was complete and then force the OAB to generate on the new server. Free/Busy information can be generated by getting users to add a meeting to their calendar, leaving it for an hour or so and then deleting it.

Simon.
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skaap2kAuthor Commented:
I think i am gonna be biting the bullet, because i have tried reinstalling exchange last week with no success. I have moved everything accross manually now - the only thing left to do is force the OAB to regenerate - how do i do that - i have been looking all over the net about it but not found the procedure?

-Paul
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rakeshmiglaniCommented:
in the ESM check the properties of the Offline address book. Right click on it and you have the option to rebuild.
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skaap2kAuthor Commented:
If i look in at the OAB in Public Folders i do not have an option to rebuild. (Bear in mind that my old exchange server is still online). Do i need to uninstall the old exchange server before i will be able to rebuild my OAB - as ESM sees an OAB but it is the one on the wrong broken server that i cant replicate.

-Paul
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rakeshmiglaniCommented:
not the public folders..
on the top left of ESM you have Recipients and then under that you have Offline Address Lists. now when you click on the offline address list then on the right had side you can see the default offline address list.
when you right click on this you get the option to rebuild
also you can check the properties here about your default OAB server (whether it is the old one or the new one)
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SembeeCommented:
Have you changed the offline address book locations in ESM? It states which Exchange server is used.

Same place that has been mentioned above - check what Exchange server is shown.

Simon.
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skaap2kAuthor Commented:
Hi Guys,

yes i have done that. The Offline Address Book has now generated it self. I also had to rebuild/ update the Recipient Update Service. but now that is all working.

I seem to be ready to completely uninstall the old Exchange Server.

Thank you for all your answers and help.
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