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Posted on 2006-06-13
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Like a lot of other people, I'd like to implement a chat session on my website.
I don't want to use Flash or AJAX or Flex or Director or Fusetalk or anything else other than standard cfm to html using a SQL database.
Oh, and I want it to be free.
With source code.
That's not asking for too much, is it?

There's been a few EE threads
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/WebDevSoftware/ColdFusion/Q_10447156.html?query=chat&topics=112
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/WebDevSoftware/ColdFusion/Q_20264957.html
But they're getting pretty stale.

I found a "Bare Bones Chat System, V1.0" at
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131&extID=1002138#loc=en_us&view=sn131&extID=1002138&viewName=ColdFusion%20Extension&avm=1

It's "Free, unencrypted and commented.  A good base for your own chat system and as good as some of the systems that you have to pay for. Download it, hack it, use it, junk it but don't pay for it!"

Can anyone say "Oh no, you should use (your name here) chat system.  It's much more up-to-date (uses cfcs), and is free and includes the source code and yada yada yada".
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psenn,

I think that a chat system that doesn't use ajax style communication will not work.

How does the chat page know when something else has happened without refreshing all the time. You need to use either Ajax or IFRAME communication to do what you want.

Doing it using IFRAMES is simple and you could just write one, then you will have the source etc.

Regards
Plucka
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well you can "sorta" do it using

<META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT="30; URL=http://somesite/somechatpage.cfm">

but all this does is continually refresh the page every 30 seconds

not sure but i think the devexchange code uses this (one i looked at a couple of years ago did)

it's ugly, server intensive and quite a poor hack but it does work...any other solutions are going to be ajax or iframe based

however, you might be able to find an open source java chat you can integrate
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SidFishes!  Love the name!  The punk dba.

Yeah, I was thinking of using the ugly, server intensive and quite a poor hack model.  That's why I thought I'd better ask around first.

Plucka, I read about the <iframe> tag based on your recommendation.  It's interesting, but I haven't quite made the connection of how using <iframe> keeps them from having to do a submit each time.  It would still be a static page, wouldn't it?  Using the <iframe> tag is NOT a shortcut for AJAX, right?

I just want to implement a solution based upon what I already know, and not have to learn an entire new language or framework just to implement a one textbox classroom exercise (for lack of a better description).

I think I want sample source code because I'll probably end up keeping the chat transcripts and relate them back to my user table to see who's been asking what, when and the answer they got back.
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hmm...this looks like it might be a pretty simple implementation...even if it is using ajax...pre-built and open source...even comes with sql scripts for MSSQL and MySQL

http://www.opensourcecf.com/cfopenchat/
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cfopenchat looks very promising.  I'll have to check it out tonight.
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Did it work for you??
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Sid,

I just got back from cfUnited, where Farcry was reintroduced as an open-source content management system, formerly a commercial product.

www.farcrycms.org.
I'm going to check it out and get back to you.
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