FTP backup with BackupExec?

Is there a way to include an ftp server in our backup jobs using an agent (since our ftp server is not in the domain)?  It seems like a simple ftp backup option should be available within BackupExec instead of requiring a clunky set of scripts or 3rd party applications.  What solutions have you implemented to backup a remote ftp server?

Here is our current hypothetical solution:

BackupExec 9.1 Server has a 3rd party (insecure) ftp program that schedules pulling files to a local folder that is backed up by BackupExec to tape.

Am I crazy to refuse to accept this kind of work around for a simple ftp server backup?  If I am then what automated ftp applications do you recommend that support ftps and have a secure way of storing the login credentials?  Thanks in advance.
aaron240Asked:
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scrathcyboyConnect With a Mentor Commented:
More specifically --
"Can anyone speak to BackupExec and any solutions don't require 3rd party apps?"

NO.  Backup exec is NOT a remote backup product, it is a LAN or local backup product, it does not do FTP.
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NYtechGuyCommented:

As an FTP application, I highly recommend WS_FTP from Ipswitch.  There is a free 30-day trial: http://www.ipswitch.com/products/ws_ftp/index.asp

As for backing up the remote server, unless you can back it up *locally* to the server, you have these options:

1. Setup a site-to-site VPN, then use a standard Veritas remote agent backup
2. Setup SFTP on the server and connect to it that way
3. Utilize FTP as you are currently doing

I hear you with the security, but frankly if your server is OPEN to FTP the information is *already* that insecure.  You are not opening a hole to do your backup, it's already opened.

Implement SFTP on a random high port number for all connections and that is as secure as you will get without a VPN for every connection.

Thanks,

Justin
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NYtechGuyCommented:

Forgot to mention, WS_FTP is scriptable and contains utilities to help with that.

/Justin
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aaron240Author Commented:
In case it wasn't emphasized enough we are using FTPS for all connections including the backup.  My frustration isn't so much with the insecure nature of the solution though though I would like to mitigate that as much as possible.

I am mostly resentful for having to resort to 3rd party apps to transfer files to BackupExec via the most basic and standardized file transfer protocol (ftp) and still claim to be a the end all be all of enterprise backup suites.  I am hoping for backup utopia, simple and secure.  O_o

A VPN tunnel is too invasive of a connection to my DMZ'ed ftp server out in the wild internet to my internally hosted backup server.

Can anyone speak to BackupExec and any solutions don't require 3rd party apps?
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scrathcyboyCommented:
"still claim to be a the end all be all of enterprise backup suites"

That claim is total BS.  It is merely a local network backup product that is full of bugs.  If you want to do a secure FTP backup, forget backup exec, it was never dreamed of when the program was written a decade ago, and it is now pathetically outdated vs a vis modern technologies.  Look at --

www.coreftp.com/
www.turboftp.com/
www.softplatz.com/software/secure-ftp/5.html
www.internet-soft.com/ftp/secure-ftp-software.htm
3d2f.com/programs/42-836-ftp-commander-deluxe-download.shtml
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