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837 dialer idle-timeout not set ? 500pts

Hello. I have an end user complaining of an adsl idle timeout, however, i havn't got an idle-timeout set on the 837's im using.

Is there a default idle-timeout anyway?

According to Cisco documentation I've found the default setting is no dialer idle-timeout
which is what I have set, however, it also says
Defaults

Direction: either

Idle time: 120 seconds


does this mean there is a default with idle-timeout of 120 when this is set?
Or the will be a dialer timeout of 120 by default even if you don't have dialer-timeout set?



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