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Per server reached" increasing for unknown reason, why?

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The "per server reached" column increased by 5 for some unkown reason. I am using per server licensing. I have 37 users and only 30 clients and 40 per server licenses but per server reached is 45. I am getting "not enough licenses available" when attempting to map an application to win 2000 server. I have tried a temporary fix by increasing the licensing to 45 which allowed me to map the application. But, then the next day the "per server reached" jumped by 5 and again and I couldn't map drives again. This is a spiral I desparately want to avoid. Help please.
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by:oBdA
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Just disable the license logging service (start with the member servers, PDC emulator last); Microsoft acknowledges that the LLS doesn't really do what it's supposed to do, and that you can safely disable it in most cases (it's disabled by default in Server 2003; you still need enough CALs ...).
Description of the License Logging Service in Windows Server Operating Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=824196
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by:dawes4000
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Thanks oBdA disabling the license logging service worked. I was able to get all of my applications mapped. It sure would be nice to know, however, which clients and applications were using up the resources. I'm not sure how to get a proper accounting of how many per server licenses really are needed.
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by:oBdA
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If you have a domain, and you have more than one server, you're usually better off with "Per Seat" licensing. If you have 40 per server licenses and two servers, you need to assign, for example, 20 to Server A and 20 to Server B. If 21 users are now traing to access Server A at the same time, you've exceeded the limit.
With Per Seat licensing, you only need as many CALs as you have user accounts (don't forget service and test accounts).
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by:dawes4000
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I have 4 servers in my DMZ 1 LINUX and 3 W2K. Virtually all of my applications run on only 1 w2k server. There are only 38 users in the company. I don't see how spliting the licenses would work, I need almost all licenses on the one app server. If one user is using 3 apps on the app server do they need 3 licenses for each app? I'm suspecting this may be the case.
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by:oBdA
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Server CALs are based on SMB sessions (basically share or print services), not on the number of applications on that server.
Per Server licensing is based on (concurrent) connection *per* *server*. That means *every* server needs the proper amount of licenses according to the number of users accessing it at the same time. With three servers and 40 users, and each user accessing each server at the same time, you'd basically need 120 licenses.
Per Seat licensing is based on the number of users in your domain (not concurrent!), independent of the number of servers you're running, so 40 licenses would be enough.
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by:dawes4000
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Lets just say I have only one server, and 40 users using that one server. Since this server grants access  based on session (per server licensing) of the client computer, it does not matter how many applications are consumed by one client that uses this said server... ccrrect? Then I add to the domain another server that will basically be a "testing server" no applications, would I then need to double my licenses to 80? That doesn't make sense.
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You'll need as much licenses as users accessing this test server at any given time.
As I said: as soon as you have a domain and more than one server, you're better off with "Per Seat" licnesing. You can do a one-time transition from Per Server top Per Client (which, since you disabled the LLS anyway, means that you just decide to use "Per Seat" from now on).
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by:dawes4000
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Ok, got it. But this puts me in a difficult situation. I don't know where all these licenses are. When I arrived here the server was already set up and configured as a per-server network. Since I have been here I have purchased only five more licenses. How do I convert to a "Per Seat" network? I don't have the all licensing information.
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You'd do that with the "Licensing" in Control Panel, but as I said, since you're not using the LLS anymore, it doesn't really matter. You just need enough CALs.
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