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What Security is required with Router
I am currently trying out a server on Windows Server 2003 and a client using XP. I have these networked via a router with my main intention being to try out a variety of applications such as Access, SQL Server etc on SharePoint from an accounting point of view i.e. generating and distributing reports to the end user.
My main system is XP and is located on a different partition on the server computer. I use the Internet and email from my main system only as I have Norton Internet security on that computer alone. I can access the Internet from all the systems via the router but I don't as I don't have any security on them.
My question is bearing in mind that this is a learning exercise only how can I secure my connection to the Internet for both client and server for the Internet (no emails) as cheaply as possible.
My main system is XP and is located on a different partition on the server computer. I use the Internet and email from my main system only as I have Norton Internet security on that computer alone. I can access the Internet from all the systems via the router but I don't as I don't have any security on them.
My question is bearing in mind that this is a learning exercise only how can I secure my connection to the Internet for both client and server for the Internet (no emails) as cheaply as possible.
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So the router is some standalone hardware box?
these IP adresses are ok, as it seems.
try to ping your router to find out if you are really connected to it by the IP protocol.
Press the windows key + r: type cmd (windows key should be between CNTR and ALT key)
now a textshell should open, type ping 192.168.0.1 from each of your computers.
you should get some results. If that is finished we can go on.
try to ping your router to find out if you are really connected to it by the IP protocol.
Press the windows key + r: type cmd (windows key should be between CNTR and ALT key)
now a textshell should open, type ping 192.168.0.1 from each of your computers.
you should get some results. If that is finished we can go on.
check your prefered dns server
Try 127.0.0.1
Try 127.0.0.1
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Please do an ipconfig and ping 192.168.0.1 (the router) from each computer and post the results
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I haven't been able to respond until now I hope we can resume where we left off.
Previously both the Windows XP and Server where 192.168.02 and I changed them to the following I don't know whether this is correct, immaterial or wrong.
Server: Windows XP address: 192.168.0.2
Windows Server address: 192.168.0.3
Client: Windows XP address: 192.168.0.4
TEST RESULTS:
Client Computer:
Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 2ms
Server:
Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 5ms, Average = 2ms
Previously both the Windows XP and Server where 192.168.02 and I changed them to the following I don't know whether this is correct, immaterial or wrong.
Server: Windows XP address: 192.168.0.2
Windows Server address: 192.168.0.3
Client: Windows XP address: 192.168.0.4
TEST RESULTS:
Client Computer:
Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 2ms
Server:
Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 5ms, Average = 2ms
no problem, I'm here.
Tolomir
Tolomir
Alright, seems ok, but can you ping
192.168.0.2 from 192.168.0.4
and / or
192.168.0.3 from 192.168.0.4
and vice versa?
192.168.0.2 from 192.168.0.4
and / or
192.168.0.3 from 192.168.0.4
and vice versa?
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I have tried something new which I think has made things a little worse. I have reinstalled Windows Server 2003 as per Microsoft NechNet Step by Step Guide only I have changed their recommended range of 10.0.0.0 range of numbers.
My Router:
1) Is external stand alone - Netgears Wireless Router DG834PN.
2) IP address: 192.168.0.1
3) LAN setting is use router as DHCP server, starting address 192.168.0.2 and ending address 192.168.0.254
Server:
1) IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
2) Prefered DNS Server: 127.0.0.1
3) I have installed the DHCP Server in Windows using the wizard and I entered the following.
DHCP scope name: Contoso HQ
Start address: 192.168.0.10 end IP: 192.168.0.254
Default Gateway screen of New Scope Wizard for default gateway I entered 192.168.0.1
For Parent Domain: contoso.com IP:192.168.0.3
4) I installed the DNS and Active directory with the following:
Full DNS Name: contoso.com
My Router:
1) Is external stand alone - Netgears Wireless Router DG834PN.
2) IP address: 192.168.0.1
3) LAN setting is use router as DHCP server, starting address 192.168.0.2 and ending address 192.168.0.254
Server:
1) IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
2) Prefered DNS Server: 127.0.0.1
3) I have installed the DHCP Server in Windows using the wizard and I entered the following.
DHCP scope name: Contoso HQ
Start address: 192.168.0.10 end IP: 192.168.0.254
Default Gateway screen of New Scope Wizard for default gateway I entered 192.168.0.1
For Parent Domain: contoso.com IP:192.168.0.3
4) I installed the DNS and Active directory with the following:
Full DNS Name: contoso.com
ASKER
I need Windows Server 2003 to run the following:
1) SQL Server 2005
2) SharePoint Server
3) Balanced Scorecard.
Can I run the above programs on Windows 2003 WITHOUT configuring a DHCP Server and DNS through Windows 2003?
1) SQL Server 2005
2) SharePoint Server
3) Balanced Scorecard.
Can I run the above programs on Windows 2003 WITHOUT configuring a DHCP Server and DNS through Windows 2003?
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Great !!!! thank you.
In terms of my security:
192.168.0.1 myrouter Router is Firewalled & I use WPA for my wireless encryption
192.168.0.2 windowsxp1 Norton - Using this OS for Internet and emails
192.168.0.3 windows2k3 No security - Currently using for internal network only
192.168.0.4 windowsxp2 No Security - Currently using for internal network only
I would like to use windows2k3 for Internet online tutorials and hosted trials (no email) what would I require to do this safely ?
In terms of my security:
192.168.0.1 myrouter Router is Firewalled & I use WPA for my wireless encryption
192.168.0.2 windowsxp1 Norton - Using this OS for Internet and emails
192.168.0.3 windows2k3 No security - Currently using for internal network only
192.168.0.4 windowsxp2 No Security - Currently using for internal network only
I would like to use windows2k3 for Internet online tutorials and hosted trials (no email) what would I require to do this safely ?
How about this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0782141307/sr=8-2/qid=1152449696/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-3823621-6300727?ie=UTF8
Mastering Windows Server 2003 (Hardcover) $37.79
Windows 2k3 is a far more complex than xp, you should really start some learning.
Tolomir
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0782141307/sr=8-2/qid=1152449696/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-3823621-6300727?ie=UTF8
Mastering Windows Server 2003 (Hardcover) $37.79
Windows 2k3 is a far more complex than xp, you should really start some learning.
Tolomir
check these out
www.visualwin.com
www.wown.com
www.testking.com
www.informit.com ----> an awesome site with the best resources
Reps
www.visualwin.com
www.wown.com
www.testking.com
www.informit.com ----> an awesome site with the best resources
Reps
ASKER
Point well taken I actually had the analytical tools of SQL and a variety of other applications in mind, my back round is accounting so I'll spend my "learning" time on that for now and rely on you guys to get me up and running with windows.
Thank you none the less I'll keep the name of the book on hand .
How about that security?
Thank you none the less I'll keep the name of the book on hand .
How about that security?
ASKER
I think my question was worded badly I don't need online tutorial links I was simply explaining why I needed internet connectivety from my Windows Server installation I need internet security.
ASKER
Is the Routers Firewall adequate on it's own if I only use trusted sites when online?????????????
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Computer 1: Partition (1) my personal computer running Windows XP and Norton
Partition (2) Server 2003 no security
Computer 2: The client computer for Server 2003 no security
I am having difficulty connecting my client to the domain on the server at the moment and have removed the IP addresses I had previously allocated. The numbers I was using were 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.03 (the router is 192.168.0.1).
Given that this is still a work in progress I would appreciate any advice/ info for both and which is preferable.