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Cannot unhide partition after using Partition Magic 8.0?

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2 Hard drives & Partition Magic 8.0 Boot Magic configuration to boot into each drive
My 1st drive 40GB indows XP Home as C drive NTFS with a small partition at end of drive formatted FAT32 for the Boot Magic configuration program.
My 2nd hard drive, 2.01GB, Windows 98 installed, also C drive.
Using Partition Magic 8.0 I made a new partition in front of Windows Xp Home but before the small FAT32 Partition. However I got a1513 error message that the partition cannot be allocated/created?
I found out Ineeeded to install the PQ 8.01 Patch to solve this problem I did this & made a small logical partition ntfs that worked. However I then made another larger NTFS Logical partition but i then recieved an error 1552 The requested FRS entry is unused(free) Now I cannot boot into Windows XP Home, only Windows 98.
I cheked Symantec & Icannot find error1552?
I used my PQ 8.0 Floppy drives but I cannot unhide the XP Home drive & no drive letters?
I asks for reboot to make changes but XP Home starts & a blue flash appears on screen & then pc goes back to restart & then to the Boot magic startup screen.
I installed PQ 8.0 to my Windows 98 Hard drive & it shows Windows XP as Disk 1 Windows XP Home (ntfs) 40GB Labelled as ?K? in question marks Why letter K?
How do I restart Windows xp home if I cannot unhide the partition & the drive letter has changed form C to ?K? with question marks?

I am worried I have lost the whole disk drive with my files & programs on?




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Dear Lee Tutor,
I followed your link above. I cannot use chkdsk because i have 2 hard drives. I can only use one the windows 98 drive. I setup both drives with your advice a few months ago using Boot magic configuration program. I made a small fat32 partition in Disk 1 XP Home & installed the Boot magic program there & both drives were booting okay as C drive  Since trying to put a new logical partition I get the 1552 error now I cannot restart into Windows xp home from the Boot Magic main screen I can only boot into Windows 98. My pc cannot see the Windows xp home drive since the 1552 error. I installed Partition magic 8.0 on the 2nd drive Windows 98 that i am using now & it shows in PQ 8.0 Disk 1 as Labelled ?K? Not C Why is that? Also it says the drive is hidden?
I don't know how to chkdsk when i cannot get into the hard drive because the drive letter is ?k? & hidden?
Is this the result of the 1552 error?
Thank you for the support,
David39
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I believe the the XP drive is hidden in order for BootMagic to be able to boot into Win98 on your dual-drive system.  If PM 8 is now installed on your Win98 drive, do you also have available the PQBoot utility?  The PM8.pdf file talks about using this as an alternative way to change active partitions:

Switching between Bootable Partitions with PQBoot
PQBoot is a quick and easy way to switch between bootable primary partitions. You may want to use PQBoot if you only occasionally change the active partition and do not want to use BootMagic or if you cannot use BootMagic easily because you only have NTFS partitions on your computer. You can also use PQBoot for Windows in conjunction with BootMagic to create a “boot once” environment—where you boot from one OS into another and then return to the orginal OS on the next reboot.

For more information about BootMagic, see “PowerQuest BootMagic” on page 89.
PQBoot for Windows
You can use PQBoot for Windows in conjunction with PowerQuest BootMagic to switch to another operating system without changing your BootMagic configuration settings. You can also use PQBoot for Windows without having BootMagic installed. Then the settings you choose are “sticky” and will be in effect until you run PQBoot for Windows again or change the active partition with PartitionMagic.
1 Click Start ➤ Programs ➤ PowerQuest PartitionMagic 8.0 ➤ PartitionMagic
8.0 Tools ➤ PQBoot for Windows.
Under Windows 95/98/Me, PQBoot for Windows will only run if PQVXD.VXD is in
the same directory as PQBOOT32.EXE.
PQBoot for Windows displays the primary partitions on your first hard disk.
2 Choose the partition that you want to boot to.
PQBoot for Windows will enable you to choose a partition that does not include an
operating system. If there is no operating system on the active partition, you must
have rescue disks or a boot disk to perform any operations.
3 Click Restart Now to reboot to the new partition immediately, or click Restart Later to boot to that partition the next time you boot the computer.
4 Click OK.
5 If you select Restart Now, a confirmation dialog appears. Click Yes to confirm.
When you reboot, PQBoot makes the selected partition active and hides the other primary partitions on the hard disk.
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Damn, copy and pasting from a .pdf document certainly has its vagaries; just ignore all those "➤" text snippets that the paste puts there...
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Hello I have PQ Boot for windows in the PQ 8.0 program in Windows 98
It shows the 1st drive Primary partition yes as Windows xp ntfs but I tried to reboot but when the pc restarts Windows xp page comes up then a blue flash appears & then it goes back to restart & then to the Boot magic startup screen with the 2 Windows 98 & Windows xp icons in the top left handside corner.
so I cannot get back into THE 1ST DRIVE NTFS Windows xp home?
This has only started after the small partition i created & the larger partition that produced the 1552 error?
Can i use my original Windows xp home CD ROM Disk & use the recovery console on the disk to reboot into the first drive?
What steps do i need to do in the console to get back to Xp home drive?

Thank you,
David39
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Well, the blue flash is probably a STOP error message that goes by too fast for you to read; it would be helpful if we could get the details on that.  You will most likely have to do this:  when Boot Magic or PQBoot starts getting you into WinXP, start pressing and releasing the F8 function key, so that hopefully you will be taken to the Advanced Options Menu.  One of the options is to turn off Automatic reboot on error; choose that, and then next time you start getting into WinXP, hopefully you will see a STOP screen.  Copy down the hexadecimal code and/or the all-capitalized error message name and any other relevant info on that screen.  Then we will start having enough data to tell whether there is a chance you can revitalize the boot into XP...
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Hello Lee Tutor,
I did as you said & yes i got the STOP ERROR message & here is the copy in full

A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen restart your computer.
If this screen appears again, follow these steps.
Disable or uninstall any anti-virus, disk defragmentation or backup utilities. Check your hard drive configuration & check for any updated drivers, run chkdsk/ f to check for hard drive corruption & then restart your computer.

Technical Information:

*** STOP : 0: 00000024
( 0X00190203, 0X8575E248, 0XC0000102, 0X00000000)
That is all


 

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Take  look at this page:

http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.htm

which is presented using frames.  You can find your Stop error code (24) in the left pane, click on it, and see this description of the error:

0x00000024: NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
(Click to consult the online Win XP Resource Kit article, or see Windows 2000 Professional Resource Kit, p. 1543.)
A problem occurred within NTFS.SYS, the driver file that allows the system to read and write to NTFS file system drives. There may be a physical problem with the disk, or an Interrupt Request Packet (IRP) may be corrupted. Other common causes include heavy hard drive fragmentation, heavy file I/O, problems with some types of drive-mirroring software, or some antivirus software. I suggest running ChkDsk or ScanDisk as a first step; then disable all file system filters such as virus scanners, firewall software, or backup utilities. Check the file properties of NTFS.SYS to ensure it matches the current OS or SP version. Update all disk, tape backup, CD-ROM, or removable device drivers to the most current versions.
General Discussion {KB 228888} Win 2000, Win XP
Caused by Open Handles while closing an application {KB 195857} Win NT, Win 2000, Win XP



Go to the actual page to see the links for further information.
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As far as running chkdsk or scandisk, I am trying now to find out if running scandisk from the Win98 drive on the XP drive (formatted NTFS) is possible.  I have run scandisk from my Win98 and WinME partitions on my WinXP partition, and it works fine, but that is because all partitions are formatted FAT32.  I expect you cannot with an NTFS formatted drive, but here is a Previously Answered Question at E-E on the subject:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Win2000/Q_21588406.html
Need to scandisk with win2k in a dos mode
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Well, have found nothing more yet.  But another idea:  do you have another XP computer available?  (Perhaps a friend's, or perhaps you are using one to reply to these comments to your question.)  And I believe you said you have a floppy drive?  Then copy chkdsk.exe from the XP computer that works OK to the floppy, get into your problem computer's BIOS in order to change the boot sequence, if necessary, to use your floppy drive as the primary boot device.  Then boot from the floppy containing chkdsk.exe and run it on the XP drive...
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by:David39
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Hello again,
I have downloaded the freeware NTFSCHK & NTFS FOR WINDOWS 98, but not installed them yet.
I made my first boot disk CD ROM in my BIOS & used my Windows XP Home original setup disk this took me to the Windows
Setup & choice of repair with existing installation using the recovery console Press R to start recovery console
I pressed R & was presented with the drive letter
C:\
but no reference to hard drives 1 & 2 or Windows
Is  this folder/file letter c:\ in the recovery console the Hard drive  Disk 1 XP Home,
if so can i run chkdsk from here to repair the ntfs.sys files?
Thank you,
David39
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Hmm.  That doesn't sound too encouraging.  But you can do a DIR command from Recovery Console to inspect drive C: and try to find out what it is that way.  Here is a description of what commands you can use in Recovery Console:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058
Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
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Hello Lee, I did the dir command from the Recover console from the Windows xp home CD Disk.
I got the directory of the Windows 98 Disk, not the XP Home disk. Since the 1552 error in Partition Magic 8.0 Disk 1 xp home is hidden & labelled ?k?  The stop error 0X24 occured because of the 1552 error in PQ8.0 I cannot get into the disk because the drive letter is ?k? not C?
I also disconnected the Windows 98 Hard drive cable & rebooted with the recovery console disk but it now sees in dir the Boot magic partition on D drive in the ?k? Drive.
The stop error 0X24 is a Ntfs.sys file problem to read & write to the NTFS partitions, that makes sense because in PQ 8.0 the C drive has changed to ?k? drive & is hidden?
I have got a friend who has an XP home computer but I still cannot get into the Windows xp home drive?
How do you change the Primary Partition XP home from ?k? to C drive.
How do you fix the Stop error 0x24 if you cannot get into the drive to use Chkdsk?
It looks like I will have to reformat the whole drive & reinstall Windows XP Home.

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Were you able to run chkdsk from a floppy disk?  If not, I think you may be right, that you'll have to reformat and reinstall XP.
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Hello,
Is there any software that can reboot a disk or hard drive to its earlier stage? Recovery software or Hard drive recover tools in an easy to run format?
Thank you,
David39
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Hello Mr Tutor,
I have followed one of your links earlier & have found support from microsoft Troubleshooting Stop 0X24 on NTFS_File_System Error messages
It says to download or make the first 4 Windows 2000 Setup disks. Using thses 4 disks will start the recovery console & repair the NTFS Partition.
 So I downloaded the Windows XP Home SP2 Setup disks
onto 6 floopy disks in my Windows 98se 1st hard drive that i am using to write to you.
However it says you have to disable the Ntfs.sys driver by modifying the 1st setup disks Txtsetup.sif file in notepad.
I cannot open the Txtsetup.sif file in Notepad in Windows 98se, it says file is to big opens in Wordpad but then it opens with messy symbols so I cannot modify the file to disable the NTFS.sys driver in Windows 98se hard drive?
How do I open this Txtsetup.sif file in Notepad in Windows 98se hard disk?
Thank you for your reply,
David39

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Your txtsetup.sif file may be corrupt, if all you are getting is udecipherable symbols and such.  But NotePad is notoriously bad for reading text files, in comparison with a lot of other freeware text editors available on the net.  The one I use is called MetaPad, and is available here:

http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/
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Hello again Mr Tutor,
Thank you for the last link to Metapad. I downloaded the file & opened the Txtsetup.si_ file but got the following message.
This file is not a valid text file. It may be binary file. Convert any NULL terminators to spaces & load anyway?
When opened same messy symbols. Also since opening the first  floopy disk setup 1 in notepad the file name has changed from Txtsetup.sif to Txtsetup.si_  & its icon is notepads icon.
I tried to reinstall the first Windows xp home floopy disk from the Windows downloaded setup program but it still saves the file as in notepad, not original Internet icon. Why is that?
I don't know what do next to open the file?
Please advise,
David39
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Ok, any file ending in a file extension where the last letter is changed to an underscore is compressed by Windows and needs to be decompressed with the Expand command:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\LeeTutor>expand /?
Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility  Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999.  All rights reserved.

Expands one or more compressed files.

EXPAND [-r] Source Destination
EXPAND -r Source [Destination]
EXPAND -D Source.cab [-F:Files]
EXPAND Source.cab -F:Files Destination

  -r            Rename expanded files.
  -D            Display list of files in source.
  Source        Source file specification.  Wildcards may be used.
  -F:Files      Name of files to expand from a .CAB.
  Destination   Destination file | path specification.
                Destination may be a directory.
                If Source is multiple files and -r is not specified,
                Destination must be a directory.

Above is the syntax for the Expand command, which you can run from a Command Prompt or from the Recovery Console.
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Hello,
I used my Windows XP home cd disk to try to do a repair with the F8 boot screen.
I got into the Xp home repair console tried diskpart which showed the xp home drive as inactive but also used space & free space. Chkdsk/ r found errors on disk but did not repair them. I used fxmbr but that did not work?
I finally did a full format with Windows XP HOME so i lost all my data & started afresh.
Thank you for your support Mr Lee Tutor
David39

 
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Hello Lee Tutor,
Thank you for your last reply. I think you deserve the points for all your informative answers? The stop error reply & the solutions to each problem were good. I think there was no way I could save my data from the drive because of the stop error(s) & the fact the drive was unhidden & in all attempts to get into the drive to restart Windows Xp Home failed.
Thank you,
David39

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