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PS1, PS2, XBOX emulators that use disc not ROM

just wanting to know if there are any emulators that work by not downloading ROMs but instead allowing you to insert your original disc into your PC's DVD drive and away you go?
(Probably not expecting one for XBOX as explorer can't see the XBOX files on the disc - just plays that movie)

if not feel free to post any ROM-based emulator links and also importantly the links to downloading the ROMs for them

i have a CXBX XBOX emulator already and have no idea how to use it - if anyone knows that would be great (no i don't have ROMs for that either)

so far the only emulator i have is Project 64 (for the Nintendo 64) + a few ROMs for it.

Ryan R
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Ryan_RIT Systems AdministratorAuthor Commented:
also got ePSXe for PSX (PS-One) games - happy with that
anything for PS2 or XBOX or other platforms?
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BarthaxCommented:
Most PS1 emulators will utilise the CD drive of your PC.  There are no working PS2 or XBox emulators to my knowledge (aside from the XBox 360 itself).
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BarthaxCommented:
http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/ps2/http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/xbox/ for a list of current emulators (note that none of them "work" so to speak).
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Ryan_RIT Systems AdministratorAuthor Commented:
i already had CXBX - what do i do with it though and where do you get .xbe files?
in theory xbox games shouldn't need to be emulated as the PC hardware is quite the same as XBOX hardware (just has to be as good)
noting that my best pc will probably fall short of such specs i wouldn't worry about this question too much anymore...
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BarthaxCommented:
The BIOS in the Xbox is different from that of the PC (indeed there's no generic PC BIOS either) & that needs to be simulated or emulated in the first place.  The XBE is the XBox Executable - the first application which is run by the BIOS in order to bootstrap the game, IIRC.  The XBE files are on the Xbox discs.
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BarthaxCommented:
> in theory xbox games shouldn't need to be emulated as the PC hardware is quite the same as XBOX hardware

The CPU in your PC should be capable of running all the instructions from the XBox's Intel Pentium III (note that many AMD CPUs will still require some emulation).  That said, the harness that the Xbox programs are used to (the hardware of the Xbox) still needs to be emulated/simulated to some degree.  So while the programs from the Xbox can run natively on the CPU of your PC, the program will not find (for example) the four game ports of the Xbox nor the specific nVidia chipset of the Xbox.
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Ryan_RIT Systems AdministratorAuthor Commented:
i'm doubting primarily my graphics capabilities - 64mb 3d onboard Intel Extreme graphics
bios emulation makes sense
plus inserting an original xbox dvd into disc only shows a movie (dvd format) saying please insert this disc in xbox console - no other files visible
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BarthaxCommented:
Remembering first & foremost that these things don't work... :D  The emulator would read the disc through the SCSI low-level access & this would allow the emulator access to the portions of the disc which you would not normally see as a standard ISO 9660 optical storage disc (i.e., the bits you can't see through Windows Explorer).
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Ryan_RIT Systems AdministratorAuthor Commented:
righteo
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