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Corel Draw X3 Fill two objects

Posted on 2006-07-17
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Assume the end product will be printed on a transparent marterial.

I have a small rectangle within larger rectangle. The small rectangle needs to be clear i.e. no fill

The problem:
When I fill the larger rectangle the smaller ractangle gets filled also.

I want to fill the larger rectangle with a color, and leave the smaller rectangle clear with no fill.

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by:walkerke
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Select both objects, then select Combine from the Arrange menu (Control-L). In Illustrator-ease, this is considered a compound path.
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I used the Select tool and Selected the first item, then pressed the shift key and selected the second item.

Combine is grayed out. Can;t continue !

OK Say I somehow manage to "Combine" the objects, what do I need to do to stop the smaller rectangle being filled ?


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by:walkerke
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If you drew the two rectangles with the rectangle tool, you should be able to combine them. Once combined, the inside rectangle will define the inside edge of the outer rectangle -- it cannot be filled.
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by:walkerke
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The first line of the status bar at the bottom of the screen should say "Rectangle on Layer 1" with just one of the rectangles selected. It should say the same thing with just the other rectangle selected. With both selected, it should say "2 Objects Selected on Layer 1." If this is not the case, let me know what it does say.
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As a newbie to Corel Draw I now realize a rectangle may not be a rectangle (at least according to Corel)

I imported the drawing into Corel Draw from AutoCad LT, then selected the "bits" and grouped it. It sure looks like a rectangle with rounded corners but Corel reports it as "Group of 9 Objects on Layer 1) (why 9 I only see 8 !).

The outer "rectangle was added using Corel and is reported as "Curve on Layer 1" Strange that looks like a rectangle to me!

So I expect it's now impossible to fill these the way I want to.

Other then redrawing everything is there a way to convert these objects to what ever is needed to make the fill work.

I tried Smart Fill:  selected the "curve on Layer 1" and then selected color "Sky Blue" Corel then filled it with Desert Blue ! As if the color index is off by 1 !
However the little "rectangle i.e. group of objects" remained transparent and I can still see the grid lines through it.

So, I change the color to White! And then it fills all the objects and I'm back to square one...

Observation: Corel Draw has a very obtuse user interface, I expect its inherited form the early 90's versions of Corel that I also never liked.

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CorelDRAW is a unique program. It has a large user base that's been around since the early 90s and knows how to use it better than the alternative. As long as they maintain that user base, they have no reason to change the interface. I was like you back in the early 90s. I hated having to learn to use it, but now prefer it when I have a choice.

I suspect that the ninth member of the group is actually the large rectangle. If so, you can get rid of the other eight "curves" that make up the stroke. CorelDRAW only recognizes rectangles that are made with the rectangle tool anything else is considered a "curve."

For combine, it's OK to have a rectangle and a curve or two curves or two rectangles. But it's not OK to have a group in the selection.

You may also get a little further if you ungroup your group, then use the weld tool on them while they're all still selected. It should be right under the word Help in the menu list at the top of the window, the second row down. That should convert the entire group into one single curve. The weld tool looks like the outer shape of two overlapping squares. The combine tool looks the same but shows the inner, overlapping parts. The combine tool is just a few tools to the left of the weld tool.
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OK the weld tool changed a few things but I still can't get the color I want ! and it fills everthing !

I'm downloading Adobe Illustrator demo! Maybe I'm jumping from the pot into the fire ! But this Corell UI is so crazy I don't think I want the pain!
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Can you post the file somewhere so I can take a look at it? Did you do the combine after you used the weld to reduce the outside group to a single curve?

If you're already familiar with Illustrator, you'd be better off with it. But I think you're giving up on CorelDRAW too quickly. If you're going to have to learn either of them, I'd recommend learning CorelDRAW.

The Macintosh operators here are having to learn Illustrator after relying on Freehand for so long and it's quite a chore. I think CorelDRAW is easier to learn, but not as widely accepted as Illustrator.
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