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How do I make a complete flash site with only useing macromedia 8? How many stages does it take to make 5 pages and how do I publish it? I am new to flash sites. I am use to frontpage2003  basic non flash sites. I have a movie tutorial on it but he doesn't explain everything step by step. I know how to create flash logo's and banners, but not complete flash sites. Please help ASAp. Thanks
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Creating a flash site is a rather complicated thing. Here are some of them:

1.) The size (dimensions) of the site. This one's rather simple but it can help a lot when it comes to figuring out what font sizes to use, the sizes of the buttons inside, etc.
2.) Navigation style - This one is all about how you intend to let the users navigate the site. A commonly used method is a side/top bar menu that will lead the users to the desired page.
3.) Page display - This one is a design issue. Some choices you would have would be to make use of different keyframs, putting the pages into movieclips that are changed via actionscript and even loading external movie clips which would contain the content of the page to display.
4.) Content - You have the choice of dynamic or static. For dynamic, you'd make use of something like xml to contain that data so that flash will just read it in and display according to how you want it to. Static on the other hand would be to stuff the data right into the flash file. Dynamic = no need to recompile to change the data, static = less head aches when handling xml files using actionscript.
5.) Special effects and other design issues - If you want to make transitions between pages, then you have to take this into account early on in the design process since things will get nasty if you try to change the site design of a site 50% complete (i've had this happen to me before...trust me, it's no fun >.<)

Those are basically the things that you'd have to look out for when it comes to creating flash sites. If you're willing to make the site, then we can at least help you construct it step by step, from design to implementation :)

Here's a flash site that I've done before. It's my 2nd year high school class site (our class's way of bragging to the rival section that we're better than them XD). http://www.geocities.com/trigger_happy_elite/csite.zip

I actually have a class site for our 3rd year but it was never completed since we were all way too busy to bother with it. Nevertheless, it's one of my best works due to all the effects it has :) http://geocities.com/h3adonis/

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I have created the first page of the flash but how do I created all of them . lets say I am building a 5 page flash site. How do I create each page? do I have to create a new flash documemt for each page and link them together some how?
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Netminder,

What do I do about this? these people helped me so dont they diserve 500 points?
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OK. Thanks
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The 1st question here is that of design, how would you want to build the rest of the pages?
What you have are 2 options:
1.) Create seperate swfs (modular type)
2.) Internal pages

From what I've read at the other question, you seem to be going for the modular type. In this case, the trick would be to create a base template with which the other pages of the flash site would be based on. Technically, you will be creating new flash documents for each page, but you'll also have to make sure that they are all of the same dimensions.

What you would have are the ff:
main.swf
 -contains the menubar
  -menubar contains menu buttons which would use a loader component to load the other pages depending on what button was pressed

page1.swf
page2.swf
page3.swf, etc
 -Their names can be changed to what you want like about.swf, news.swf, gallery.swf
 -Must all be of the same size (their lengths and widths must all be the same)
 -Can contain anything from pictures to text to other things you might want

Sorry if my reply is a bit vague, I can't seem to find an easier way to explain this.

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i understand what you are saying. This all is a little confusing to me but im stating to understand.  I hae 2 questions.

1. Do I have to name the page HTML or does publishing do that for me?

2. Do I put the the html page it creates after publishing into frontpage or can I just ftp it to my hosting account?
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1.) Publishing will handle the creation of the html file which will contain the swf. However, you can change this in the publish settings dialog under file menu.
2.) The html page is good for viewing already. I don't see the reason why you should open it in frontpage other than the possibility of editing it.

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I can name the swf anthing I want right?
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When you name your swf file, you will also have to change the code within the html file to match whatever is needed. But if you really want to change the name of the swf, my suggestion is to adjust the publish settings and change the name there so that flash can accomodate easily.

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Oh. Im not to good at the html thing yet.
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Then chances are that your best bet is to adjust the publish settings so as to let flash know that you're changing the file name of the swf

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So if my swf file is named photos.swf and it is for my photo gallery I have to change it or can I just leave it that?
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Ok, I'm really starting to get confused now... Wait... Can you fully explain what you're trying to do? We won't be able to get anywhere if I randomly shoot answers without knowing what I'm trying to hit...

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sorry about that. This is confusing me also. I'm going to do it by creating seperate swfs (modular type).  Each flash document I make will have a name right? Do I name the flash file that will have my home page on it: home.swf? then photo gallery: photo_gallerry.swf?
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Basically what you should have are several swf files and 1 html file. The html file would contain the main movie which will handle the loading of the other swf files. With regards to the naming, yes, all swf files must have names and you're free to name them to however you want to name them. Home.swf and photo_gallery.swf are good names for swf files since they're descriptive enough and are URL friendly (no spaces or special characters).

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Ok. So just ftp the html file to my hosting account and the swf's upload them also to my hosting and it will all fall in order correct?
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Assuming that everything works well offline (as in you view the entire site from your hard disk using your web browser), then there should be no problems in viewing it online when you ftp it to the web server.

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How do I preview the site off line. I thought that I need to upload everything to my hosting first. There will be 5 pages (swf documenets). do you mean just view each page by itself because the site doesn't link everything together until it is on a server right? I'm sorry if I am making you pull your hair out with all these questions but the only way for me to learn is to ask until I get it right.
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Well, you can actually test the links to make sure that they work offline. What you would have to do is to open the main html file or the main swf file and test everything there. If something doesn't work, then chances are that it still won't work when you upload it.

>>There will be 5 pages (swf documenets). do you mean just view each page by itself because the site doesn't link everything together until it is on a server right?

Err....do you mean to say that you never linked them? O_o;
Technically you should because otherwise, your viewers would have to memorize the files names of the html/flash pages to view them if you don't link to them yourself...

Oh and sorry if I replied a little late, I was busy reformatting my comp (switched from fedora to gentoo linux XD)

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