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My site is designed with FrontPage 2003. I purchased a shopping cart that requires a Unix server. For some unknown reason, the navigation structure becomes corrupt as it sits on the server. The navigation bars and page formatting will either be missing, or some navigation bars will be fully functional while others will be present, but missing the labels. The problem is not consistent. The host claims it is not what he is doing, but the problem occurs when he has made modifications to the site address, or when he installed a trial SSL. When I access the site with FrontPage and view the problem navigation bars, t hey appear normal.
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by:coreybryant
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Are you using any FTP into this site?  FTP can corrupt the FPSE.  And being on a *NIX server, some FPSE components are sometimes very difficult to use.

Is the SSL on your domain or is it a shared SSL?

-Corey
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Thank you for your comments, Corey;
I have learned not to use FTP as it did corrupt my site in the past.
The domain is my address, not shared.
I have been having many problems since I bought the SalesCartX program which requires Unix. I wanted a shopping cart that would integrate with FrontPage so I can move hosts  if needed without re-doing all of the buy links as I have hundreds of these. I  have had nothing but trouble since this program was installed. Tech support refused to help.
Would you recommend dumping the SalesCartX program? Other suggestions?
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Well have you considered creating your own naviagtion and maybe using server side includes?

That might be better in the long run actually and help you out.  I am not familiar at all with the salecartX program.  Have you checked the FPSE since installing this software?

-Corey
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Server side includes? Do you know where there is a tutorial on how to do this? I am not a programmer and have been doing my best with this site.
So what you are saying is that the navigation is the main problem with Unix and Frontpage? That would mean that stability in other areas should not be a problem?

The extensions have been checked and are the latest version. Of course the host has said I  should use FTP to publish, so I am thinking his reliability is limited at best.
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>>Do you know where there is a tutorial on how to do this?
It depends on exactly what server side language, etc but check out http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/help/ftopic3918.html first - you will probably want to use PHP includes

>>Of course the host has said I  should use FTP to publish,
FTP corrupts the FPSE.

-Corey
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Corey;

Could you please give me an idea what it might cost to have you either do this work, or guide me through the process?
I have seen the tutorial which provides some good information, but actually applying this to my site is another problem.
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Well it is pretty easy actually.  The first thing you have to decide is which one you want to use:
SSI
ASP includes
PHP includes

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It would require PHP includes if my site is on a Unix server wouldn't it?
I also need to establish a working SSL. Does this change anything? I had a trial certificate recently, but the navigation was corrupt and I could not test it, so the trial expired.
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You could use PHP or SHTML actually.  Both OSs usually support SHTML.  We started using ASP because we were on windows and more web pages needed ASP.

So basically you need to create your own navigation at this point - something that might be difficult.  one thing to keep in mind though, you do not need any <html>, <head>, <body> tags.  

For example, on loud800.com I am using nav.html
<p class="nav" style="text-align: center"><a href="/default.asp">Home</a> : <a href="/overview.asp">Overview</a> : <a href="/toll-free/plans/default.asp">Products</a> : <a href="/toll-free/features/">Features</a> :
<a href="/800_plans/solutions/">Solutions</a> : <a href="/faqs/">FAQs</a> : <a href="/rates.asp">Rates</a> :
<a href="/order.asp">Order</a></p>
And then when I insert it, it pulls all the information needed

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So if I am getting the picture, I can add hyperlinks to reference the desired page.
Is nav.html using ASP? The shopping cart is designed around PHP. Will this make any difference even though the cart does not work well anyway?
My site has around 40 pages. Is this considered enough to require ASP?
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>>I can add hyperlinks to reference the desired page.
yes, you can.

>>Is nav.html using ASP?
Not really - because it has the html extension.  but once it is included in an ASP page then yes, it is using / can use ASP

>>The shopping cart is designed around PHP.
I would then use PHP and PHP includes

>>Will this make any difference even though the cart does not work well anyway?
It depends on why the cart does not work well

>>Is this considered enough to require ASP?
Using ASP will help you create the one page (header, navigation, footer, etc) and then if you need to make a change to the footer, you do not have to make a change to all 40 pages, just one

-Corey
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