Link Backs not appearing in Google

Hi,

I have a websiet that is indexed by Google at least once a week and currently has a page rank of 4. However, we are trying to increase our page rank to about a 6. One of the attempts we have made to do this is to increase the number of link backs to our site. We currently appear to have onyl one, although I know there are at least 30 or 40 sites that link back to us as well as up to 20 premium (paid for) directories.

The problem is whenever i doa "link:www.ssil.co.uk" search (our webste) we receive only 1 site appearing. As an additional note, sometime when I do this search I receive 2 or 3 sites but ehn when I do it again they have gone?

Can anyone tell me why this hapenning, how I can get the link backs to stay there and/or provide any more tips on how I can increase my google page rank not just for my homepage ( this is most important though) but for other pages on the site as well.

Regards,

Gary Francis
Software Developer
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periwinkleCommented:
Let me state up front that I have never found Google to be accurate for the number of links to a site.  

Having said that, in order for Google to pick up the links to a website, that OTHER site must be indexed in Google -- and the CHANGES have to be picked up by Google.... that can take 6-8 weeks if Google. doesn't refer to that site often, and longer, if it doesn't even know about that site.

Fresh content helps your Google ranking immensely; if your site is updated often, Google will begin to learn to reindex often.

GaryFrancisLondAuthor Commented:
Periwinkle,

I am already aware of what you have said with regards to them indexing more frequentlyif you habe updated content and for other sites to be indexed.

The problem I am facing, is the other sites have been indexed with the changes. And If I do a search for all sites that contain the term www.ssil.co.uk I see the sites that have links back to my site, but Google doesn't appear to recognise that it is a link?

Is there something I am missing?

Are there any other ways to improve page rank (I am already updating content on a weekly basis and Google appears to know this as it indexes my site on average about once a week).?

Regards,

Gary Francis
Software Developer
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periwinkleCommented:
As I mentioned, I haven't found Google to be accurate with listing all of the links.  Additionally, even if the other sites have been previously indexed, has google necessarily picked up on the change that added your link in place?  The page rank and number of links on the page that links to you matter as well, but I'm not a search engine specialist, nor do I know the current, ever-evolving formula at google for pagerank.

Perhaps one of these articles will be of use?

http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/pagerank/increase.php
http://www.smart-it-consulting.com/article.htm?node=163&page=109
http://www.graphic-design.com/Web/increase_rank.html
http://www.searchenginecollege.com/2006/07/q-and-how-do-i-increase-my-sites.html
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GaryFrancisLondAuthor Commented:
Thanks for the article links but I am already doing pretty much all of that stuff and it doesn't resolve my issue of the Google links mystery. You say Google is not that reliable, si there any proof of this or is it just speculation? I know for a fact Google has indexed the pages that are linking to my site because I can see the link in the description of the site on a google search  for my site url within the linking sites pages.

Has anyone else got any ideas that may help me understand why these one way links are not showing up in Google for my site?

Regards,

Gary Francis
Software Developer
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periwinkleCommented:
Hi Gary -  My proof is in the pudding;  I've been developing web sites for 12 years, and have often found links that Google has not indicated, even WHEN the page is in the google index.
GaryFrancisLondAuthor Commented:
But surely Google wouldn'y just not add links for any patiular reason - there must be a reson why this happens. I knwo for a fact that there are at least 40 sites which link back to us that Google has indexed since the link was placed.

Surely there must be an explicit reason why this is occurring - I am not happy that this just happens and I can't beleive that other web developers would feel that it is ok for this to happen for no reason.

I personally think there is a reason why Google isn't display these links. Coudl it be that they don't think the link is not adhering to Googles t&c's?

I am beginning to think that I may need to direct my questions direct to Google.

Regards,

Gary Francis
Software Developer
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periwinkleCommented:
Who says anything about 'feeling it is ok'?  :)

Seriously, of course there is likely to be a programatic reason behind why some links aren't included.  See:

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3100291

which states " Complicated issues such as Javascript, bad coding, image map links, and CSS hurt the process because these make Googlebot work too hard, which can lead to mistakes while spidering webpages."

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GaryFrancisLondAuthor Commented:
Brett,

Cheers for your help. I think i am going to take my issues up with Google.

As a thank you for your time, you can have the points.

Regards,

Gary Francis
Software Developer
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periwinkleCommented:
Thanks Gary - I hope Google gives you a good answer (and then you should write it up -- I haven't heard of another article that explains it in detail to date!)
humeniukCommented:
FWIW - Periwinkle is correct.  Google's link: feature only shows a sample of linking sites.  It is not intended to show a comprehensive list.  Additionally, you are correct in speculating that a link from a site that Google doesn't have in its index would not appear on a list of backlinks either.
amebaCommented:
humeniuk,
> it is against EE guidelines to include a URL in your signature

Can you be more specific?  Your statement gives the impression that it's for ANY URL.
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