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W98 cannot read cr-r(w)

Hello,

mij W98 cannot read cd-r(w)'s. I already tried installing UDF reader, but it still says there's nothing in the drive.
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kodiakbear

8/22/2022 - Mon
blue_zee


Have you tried updating the firmware of that CD drive?

Usually that is one of the solutions.

Zee
jvuz

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Not yet, I'll have  a look this evening. But the problem is that it hasn't an internet connection, so I 'll be working with floppy's :/
I'll mention too that the drive can read other cd's, I mean, like cd's of Offce, W98, ...
blue_zee


It's not uncommon that some drives cannot read Cd's burned in some other drives, and specially rewritable.

Anyway and hopefully the firmware update will help.

Good luck.

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nobus

if your cd drive is an older one, it would not be able to handle the (higher density) cd r/w.
Try a later drive (which one is it, btw ?)
dbrunton

Firmware update may not work.  

Symptoms are that of a failing laser.  The laser is strong enough to read commercial CDs but not strong enough to read CDR or CDRW which need more power.  You could try a lens cleaning kit for the drive and hope that works.
jvuz

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So, another possibility could be installing a newer cd drive?
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dbrunton

Yes, Borrow one and try that out.  

Or transfer the one known to not work to another machine and see if the symptoms occur there.  If they do, you know its the drive.
jvuz

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The thing is, I already tried installing Linux on that pc, with using cd-r(w)'s. And that worked. So couldn't it be a problem related to W98?
nobus

>>   with using cd-r(w)'s  <<  check the media, they were probably a lower speed, like 4x or 6x
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jvuz

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So, when writing the cd-rw, I should try writing at a lower speed?
nobus

it can help, but you need lower speed media, to get it recognised imho
jvuz

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The iso for linux was written on 4X, so it should work for the same speed on W98 too, shouldn't it?
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nobus

you can try it, as i said, but the best would be to try on 4x media.
otherwise, put in a newer cd drive.
jvuz

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OK, this evening I'll try, I'll keep you posted. Thanx already.
blue_zee


The new CD drive is, of course, the optimal solution.

And go for DVD rather than CD drive.

But, again, I believe the firmware update may help. Firmware updates are most of the times designed precisely to make the drive compatible with new/modern media.

If cash is an issue, please try the firmware update and that is REAL simple.

If cash is not the issue here, buy a new DVD drive.

Zee
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nobus

i had the same issue with my older drives.
jvuz

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I tried with a cd-rw xritten on 4X, but stille didn't read. Had a look at the model and it's a Hitachi CDR-7930. I can find drivers but no firmware.
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Your best option is a new drive, that is a really oldie.

Zee
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I was afraid of that, but I don't understand why it worked when I installed Linux on it, because I wrote the iso's on exact the same cd-rw's.
blue_zee


Probably age is pressing too.

Zee
nobus

ain't hardware fun?
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What do you mean with "Probably age is pressing too."?
blue_zee


ROFL,

It's old, it may be starting to fail...?

Zee
jvuz

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OK ;) I'll try with another drive.
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Good luck!
;-)

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nobus

that will work - as i suggested from my first post
blue_zee

nobus,

Don't worry, I don't want your points and jvuz is not a newbie around here.

Geez, that is a useful post...
:-(

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nobus

zee, i know that - not a newbie either.  thuis looks better :   -->    :-))
jvuz

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I'm trying with a Philips PCCD048, but no avail. ANywone knows the firmware?
dbrunton

Don't think it exists.

If its not here and I've looked it may not be anywhere

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_search.php
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willcomp

Some comments and questions to clear the air.

CD-RWs may either be burned in the same manner as a CD-R or formatted for packet writing (essentially a large floppy disk).  You mentioned installing a UDF reader which reads packet written CD-RWs.  Were CD-RWs burned or formatted for packet writing (e.g. InCD or DirectCD)?

Will drive read burned CD-R disks?

As mentioned before --> for older drives, 4X is about limit on CD-RW disks.

If you were able to install Linux from a burned CD-RW, one would assume drive is functional.  Compare types (brands and speed) of disks and determine whether some work and some do not.

If you wish to continue using PC, a newer drive would help.  8X is a bit pedestrian by today's standards.
jvuz

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That's why I put in the Philips drive which is a 48x speed. But like I said, no avail. :(

I'm gonna try to install Windows 2K (I did it before on that machine, so it's possible) and then I wil see if it can read cd-rw's in W2K. If that's the case, then the problem is W98.
nobus

here the driver file :  
http://www.driverfiles.net/CDrom-Drives/Philips-Consumer-Electronics/PCCD048/download/page,sh,20614,241,15,.html
and here they say it should read CD RW's :  http://www.ciao.co.uk/Philips_PCCD048R__Review_5306483

you can try hooking the cd drive to the other IDE cable, for a test.
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OK, I see the info, but I see no link where I can download something. Sorry.
nobus

to the right it says download driver, but it directs you to driver detective - let it run and see . .
jvuz

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I ended up installing Linux on the pc. I'll close the question. Thanx anyway for your help.
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Thank you bur please feel free to post for a refund.

Zee
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Already did. Thanx Blue_zee ;)
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