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Is it possible to upgrade an existing Windows 2000 server currently acting as the domain controller (only server) to a SBS 2003 server (same box).  If not what are the recommended procedures to backup the LDAP database and any other databases or information needed to properly restore to the new SBS 2003 install?  I need this to be done on the same machine and as seamless to the users as possible  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
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by:Lee W, MVP
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Have a read over this Microsoft document:
Migrating from a Peer-to-Peer Network to a Windows Small Business Server 2003 Network
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/d/c/6dccf9b4-d915-4c95-b5af-100b89e02add/SBS_MigratingSBS2k.doc
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by:mscn
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The current 2000 server is not a 2000 Small Business Server.  The server is Windows 2000 Server Standard Ed and this is also not a Peer-To-Peer network.
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by:redseatechnologies
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Hi mscn,

It is quite straight forward to upgrade windows 2000 server to sbs 2003.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/upgrade/default.mspx

Here are the best practices for an upgrade
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d9f63c79-6488-4058-bd90-94d46c82cd68&DisplayLang=en

Hope that helps,

-red
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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You can easily perform an in-place upgrade from Standard Windows 2000 Server to Small Business Server 2003.  You just need to ensure that you complete all of the To-Do list items as part of the install process which will migrate all of your AD and DNS to a proper SBS 2003 configuration.

Jeff
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by:mscn
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Sounds easy enough!  I assumed that this would be a difficult or impossible process since SBS 2003 seems to butt heads with all other Windows Server OS's.  Anyway I will give this a try on Saturday October 28th and respond back with the outcome.  Meanwhile if you know of any steps that may need to be elaborated on from the Microsoft instructions or personal experiences that may aid in this upgrade, please lend them to me.  I promise that I'll give them back when I am finished.

Thanks,
Jeremie
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by:redseatechnologies
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SBS 2003 is actually quite good at dealing with other servers and other OSes, as long as it is in charge.

"We work as a team, but we do it MY way" :)

The Microsoft guide works.  Upgrade the OS, then continue the SBS setup (it will prompt you).

Personally, I would probably go for a fresh install - but that will depend on your circumstances (do you have the backup space, have you got spare hardware, is your domain disposable, do you have an existing mail server, etc)

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by:mscn
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In this case a fresh install is not possible since I do not have spare hardware, the domain is not disposable and there is no existing Exchange mail server.  I agree that SBS has to be in charge or else!!!  Thanks for the help, I'll be in contact.

Jeremie
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I have successfully installed the SBS 2003 Server OS but have a few issues that need to be addressed.  As I assumed the Intranet and OWA are not working.  In my experience this has always been the 2 components that give me the most trouble.  I get  "The page cannot be found" when I try to access the companyweb intrnaet page and OWA.  It did however work at one point.  I believe that the problems occurred when I upgraded to SP1 or when the Sharepoint was upgraded to SP2.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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If you have just applied SP1, then you need to reapply http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831464 in order for OWA to work again.

As for Companyweb, make sure that your DNS has a CNAME (Alias) entry for companyweb.

Jeff
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by:mscn
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Can you be a little more specific about the CNAME entry?
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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In your domain.local Forward Lookup Zone, there must be a CNAME entry for companyweb pointing to server.yourdomain.local

If it's not there, you just right click in the right side pane and select Add New Alias (CNAME)... enter 'companyweb' in the top box, and 'server.yourdomain.local.' in the lower one (including the trailing period)

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by:mscn
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Ok, here is where I am at:

- I am unable to apply 831464 as it tells me that I already have a newer Service Pack version than the update I am trying to apply and it closes.
- I already have a CNAME for companyweb pointing at my servername.mydomain.local

Is there anything that you need to know that I may not be mentioning?  This was all working at one point before applying the almost 100 security updates and service packs.  Should I remove the service packs?  I have no problem removing the service packs if that will fix the issue.
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by:mscn
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Also just for the record, I have already re-installed the Intranet and Monitoring components.
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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When you say you upgraded to SP1, you must be referring to just the Windows Server 2003 SP1.  That's only part of SBS's, so you didn't complete the job.

Please see http://sbsurl.com/sp1 for details on how to fully upgrade SBS to SP1.

Jeff
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by:mscn
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I installed Windows Server 2003 SP1 and the SBS SP1.  Then I installed all of the remianing updates from the Microsoft Update site.  I'll check out the link you sent and get back to you.  I you need any answers or have questions please reply.  This one is down to the wire and my bosses will be pretty upset tomorrow if I don't get this working as I promised.  I really appreciate all of your support thus far.
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by:mscn
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I am not sure what needs to be done exactly from those lengthy instructions and am afraid that I may make it worse if I misunderstand.  I am going to remove the Win 2K3 Service Pack 1 and reinstall.
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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I wouldn't suggest that... even though the instructions are lengthy, missing even ONE step can cause failure... that's why they exist.  Sorry, but you can't shortcut the administration of an SBS like that.


What needs to be done are ALL of the steps which apply to your situation.

Jeff
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by:mscn
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Followed the instructions and still having the same problems.  This was a bit disappointing since it was very time consuming and resulted in me being in the same position.  Anything else we can try?
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by:mscn
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There has to be a common point here that can help determine where the problem is with the server.  None of the following services are working:

- OWA
- Remote Web Workplace
- Intranet (companyweb)
- Monitoring and Reporting in the Server Management console

Please, is there anyone out there that can help me?

I will be contacting Microsoft tomorrow morning using one of my TechNet subscription.  I will still be checking here if anyone has any words of wisdom.
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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Well, first of all, if you did contact Microsoft you wouldn't need to use your TechNet subscription.  Service Pack install problems are a free call.

At any rate... since everything that isn't working is related to IIS,  but first, can you confirm if you were able to NOW reapply 831464?

Jeff
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I agree that I shouldn't have to us my Technet subscription, but they made me anyway.  Since I could not waste time arguing over this, I went ahead and used one of my cases.  This issue was definatley due to a service pack install as it was working just fine before the SP's were applied.  Microsoft tech's advised that it was b/c IIS was missing some of the Sharepoint stuff that this must have been causing it even thogh I told them that I was removing and re-installing different things in an effort to trouble shoot and fix the issue at hand.  They did not care and after many registry changes, ISS manipulation and 9 hours later the problem was resolved.  Sorry that we could not fix this one on this forum for future reference.

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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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Please post that request to the Community Support TA.

Glad you got things worked out though.

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