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SBS BDC's shutting down

Posted on 2006-10-23
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2003 SBS servers keep shutting down. DC is fine. BDC's shut down on their own. I know there was virus to do with NT Authority, but this is not the same problem I've ran into in the past. ran fix anyway didn't help. reloaded BDC's still happens. Seems to start when RPC is configured?
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'2003 SBS servers' plural?  is there more than one SBS on the domain?
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by:suppsaws
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Hi valley_side,

Did you read this document?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=71211053-CCD6-4F2B-BBD9-5E7B97C232EC&displaylang=en

You can only have one sbs server on you domain, the sbs server needs to have all the FSMO roles.
What are you seeing in the eventlogs?

Cheers!
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There are 4 2003 servers, 1 2000 server different domain. They are std sbs and premium sbs. Did not finish SBS on secondary's, secondary's are secondary DC and AD and One exchange.The DC is setup SBS. Two servers run SQL for different software. It does not happen until I setup RPC, then I can't get the Secondary's to stop shutting down.
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"There are 4 2003 servers, 1 2000 server different domain. They are std sbs and premium sbs."
By that you mean that you have 4 small business server 2003 server on the same domain?
Read the document, if that is the case, the servers will shut down because you are in violation with the EULA.
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Gottcha...thakyou...I'm not there right now but is there away I can install Uninstall the sbs side on the secondary's or do I need to buy new 2003 server disk without sbs?
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by:suppsaws
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is this a new installation?
if it it, just reinstall the server (s) and put server 2003 std on it
here is a document on how to place additional servers on an sbs network:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6F4015F2-7606-4EAA-828A-00B8DF6BD999&displaylang=en
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They are installed already. Guess I'm buying std disks. I really appreciate the info.
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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I would go back to your distributor and ask them to exchange the licenses if you can.  Because your situation apparently shouldn't have ANY SBS's installed.  SBS is a special-use product and has separate licensing and CALs which cannot be combined with Standard Enterprise Server licensing.

Jeff
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I inherited this mess and I hoped I could figure away around it, but won't happen. I have to admit I really couldn't find much info on this until I posted it here. The DC is too important to wipe out, just can't be down, so guess I'm going to start a new separate domain. This all started with ISA and an exchange setup that they couldn't get working. I basically still have to go with the same domain name so if the DC which I really can't wipe out is companyname.local I need the domain name the same but companyname.com but if I do this SBS and net bios probably still isn't going to like it so I think I'm going to have to demote the SBS DC to file server and go from there. The DC also has an SQL database on it. Thoughts on this are welcome. They also have other servers setup as a separate domains I don't know why this was done but they involve SQL and a lot of time to change it so I'm leaving them as is and there working okay.
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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How many users are there on the network?

You can't demote an SBS unless you're removing it from the network entirely.  Also, SBS does not support trusts, so if you are going to redeploy, you need to have everything controlled by the SBS.

There is a way to migrate using the same domain name... you'll find that here:  www.sbsmigration.com  I wouldn't use a .com domain for your local network.

But if you have more than 50 users, and you are stuck with multiple domains... your only recourse is to remove the SBS entirely and use standard servers.

More info on SBS:  http://sbsurl.com/techguide  and http://sbsurl.com/seminar

Jeff
TechSoEasy
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