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2 disjointed internal domains within the same forest, multiple internal dns servers, and i wish to use netbios names to resolve

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I am in charge of a network that has 2 domains (1 non-routable (2k) and 1 internet routable (2k3) with dns hosted on internal DNS server).  I wish to use netbios names to connect to the computers within the network.  When connected to the network, I can use netbios names for the current domain but not the other domain.  Both dns servers have secondary zones of the other domain. Both primary dns zones are AD integrated. Both networks have at least 2 DC's for redundancy. The 2 domains are connected via a router-to-router VPN connection. After doing some research, I've noted that if you use the "Append these DNS suffixes (in order)" option in the DNS server's TCPIP settings, listing the opposite domain first, then the current domain second, it *SHOULD* allow netbios names to be called. The problem is that it's not working.  I've tested it using my own laptop's nic - setting the tcpip settings to append the 2 domains and then it works, but I don't want to have to go to all 90+ machines and do that.

Any computer can resolve any host via FQDN. We do not use WINS. Domain1 is Windows 2000 native, Domain2 is Windows 2000 native (but running all 2k3 servers) and Forest is Windows 2000.

Please help me get resolution via netbios names.
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by:Joseph Hornsey
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Well, if you want NetBIOS name resolution across routers, you've got two choices:

1. Configure an LMHOSTS file with the names and IP addresses of every computer on both networks and place it in the %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc folder of every computer on the network.

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2. Use WINS.

That's it.  Routers don't pass NetBIOS broadcasts and you say that one domain is not routable and the other is, so I'm assuming multiple network segments.  If that's the case, then you'll have to do one of the above two things.

I'd recommend you not use NetBIOS name resolution (and WINS), however, it sounds like you don't have a choice (or else why in the world would you do this?) so go with WINS.

Configure it with DHCP and make sure you configure the NetBIOS node type with the WINS primary server address (configure the clients as a Hybrid node) when you configure the DHCP scope options.

Let me know if you need more direction or are unfamiliary with WINS.

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I wish to be rid of wins and use DNS only.  There has to be a way to type in a netbios name, and have dns pick it up and append 1 suffix to it to make it a DNS name and if that doesn't exist then append another suffix to make it a DNS name.

through my studies for MCSE, i know it's possible, just i've been having trouble doing it. On a pure 2k3 network i know it's possible.
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You may be right, but I'm not sure.  I know that on Windows NT 4.0, you had the option (on the WINS tab of your TCP/IP properties) to put a check in a box that said "Use DNS for WINS resolution".  The problem is that this option isn't available in Windows XP.  I've been Googling this and can't seem to find an option to do it.

In fact, a MS KB article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837391) seems to indicate that there is no other option other than WINS.

I'll poke around some more and see if I come up with something.

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by:Joseph Hornsey
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Both of my comments are accurate, so I think that the points should be awarded.

Thanks!

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I have awarded you the points, but I am 99% sure there is another way of doing it, I just can't recall.

Either way, Thank you for your efforts.
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