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Force rename of protected folders

Some folders won't allow a rename, can this be overridden in any way?

I understand It could cause massive impacts on the stability of my system, but that isn't an issue in this case.

Be greatful for the help.
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Antonio King
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Steve KnightIT ConsultancyCommented:
Which folders would this be?  If the files are in use in the folders only way would be to close the files or services or whatever is using the files or do the rename from recovery console, dos boot disc, ntfsdos boot disk, bart pe or whatever outside of the main OS.
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Antonio KingIT ManagerAuthor Commented:
The folder in question is WINDOWS, I would like to rename it Windows.

This would mean it won't inpact system stability.
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SamsonChungCommented:
DOS, try ATTRib to see if you have p turned on.

if so, -p dir name
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SamsonChungCommented:
Also,

Windows, in dos 3 to 7, is displayed as WINDOWS

so even if you try it, it is still WINDOWS
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Steve KnightIT ConsultancyCommented:
You would probably need to change it t something else then back to windows in the proper case or try it from a cmd prompt ... or DOS before windows loads etc. is this windows 3,1,95,98,ME,NT,2000, XP???

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Stephen McTigueAssistant Director of Information TechnologyCommented:
do this in the directory where the folder or file you want to rename is:

attrib -r (name of file or folder)
ren (name of file or folder) (what you want to be renamed)
attrib +r (name of file or folder)



attrib +r is optional, but if you want it to be read-only again, you need to.
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dbruntonCommented:
Why not do this from a boot floppy disk or a bootable CDROM drive or even a bootable Linux CDROM that supports NTFS or FAT32?
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Antonio KingIT ManagerAuthor Commented:
This is Windows XP.

I have created an unattended windows setup using sysprep and various 3rd party tools.

I understand I would need to rename it to something else then back.

I would prefer to do this from cmd prompt, during the installation of windows.

Going to try the attrib process.
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For-SoftCommented:
To rename WINDOWS to Windows a Long File Name support is necesary. So, it is not possible to do it before Windows loads. As, the LFN support is a part of the Windows.

Also, the short name WINDOWS will be always there. But, it is possible to add a longname "Windows" mith a REN command.

I made a try on the Windows 98 OS from a DOS window. And All I had to do was:

REN WINDOWS "Windows"

And It worked.

The DIR command was displaying the WINDOWS folder before the change:
WINDOWS        <DIR>        06.11.11  23:20 WINDOWS
after the change:
WINDOWS        <DIR>        06.11.11  23:20 Windows
It is possible to remove LFN Windows name leaving the short name WINDOWS by:
REN "Windows" WINDOWS
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Antonio KingIT ManagerAuthor Commented:
That process simply won't work with Windows XP.
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For-SoftCommented:
Darn. A windows XP you say. It's a different story, then.

But, you can create a file during the setup, and then to check for it's presence in the process (instead of renaming the WINDOWS) folder.
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Steve KnightIT ConsultancyCommented:
I suppose BART PE would be the easiest answer then.  Is this an image - PQI, Ghost etc. in which case could you use Ghost Walker or whatever it is called to edit it within the GHO file.

I suppose I *could* ask why ...

Steve
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Antonio KingIT ManagerAuthor Commented:
I'm a perfectionist thats why... :D

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Steve KnightIT ConsultancyCommented:
Thats better than "just because I want to" I suppose ;-)
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CaudaxCommented:
dbrunton:
>>Why not do this from a boot floppy disk or a bootable CDROM drive or even a bootable Linux CDROM that supports NTFS or FAT32?

This is pretty much the only way for you to rename the folder.

I recommend using the Linux distribution (distro for short) Knoppix:
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

Just burn an image onto a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM (depending on the version) and it can run straight from the CD/DVD without any installation. You should be able to rename the folder from Linux, now that NTFS is supported.
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Antonio KingIT ManagerAuthor Commented:
I'm only prepared to do this in an unattended method, ie during the installation of windows.

I would believe that its best to do this from batch but it doesn't seem to work on the windows folder.

thanks to everyone with there input. i'll split the points accordingly.
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SamsonChungCommented:
SysPrep works best when you have Windows installed.

and then package it for imaging. So it will rerun the setup process on next rerun.

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Steve KnightIT ConsultancyCommented:
Why select a solution that doesn't work BTW?
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Antonio KingIT ManagerAuthor Commented:
As it generally does work. But not with the windows folder at the time I'd like to use it
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