HowTo: Nicely align input elements within a table?

Problem:
- The code (below), renders a trivial table with two rows.
- The text fields (column 1) render nicely, the input fields (column 2) don't.

  +--------+------------------------+
  |    City|                        |
  +--------+------------------------+
  | Country|                        |
  +--------+------------------------+

- Please note how nicely the left portion of column 2 is seperate from the
  table border.  For example, it looks something like the following for both
  a text input field, and a selection list:

  +-----
  | +---
  | |
  | +---
  +-----

- The right portion (margin?) of the input field is much less nice.  In Firefox 2.0
  it looks something like:

  -----+
  -----|
      ||
  -----|
  -----+

  in IE 7, it is even worse.  It looks like:

  -----+
  -----|
       |
  -----|
  -----+

  How do I have the right input element margin separate from the containing
  table td edge?

======================================================================
<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title> Sizing </title>
<style type='text/css'>
input {
  width            : 100%;
  color            : yellow;
  background-color : blue;
  font-family      : Courier;
  font-size        : 10pt;
}
select {
  width            : 100%;
  color            : yellow;
  background-color : blue;
  font-family      : Courier;
  font-size        : 10pt;
}
table {
  background-color : #112233;
}
td {
  background-color : #fafad2;
  font-size        : 9pt;
  font-family      : Courier;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<form name='myform' action=''>
  <table width='20%' cellpadding='4' cellspacing='1'>
    <tr>
      <td width='30%' align='right'>City</td>
      <td width='70%'>
        <input type='text' id='user' size='5'>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td align='right'>Country</td>
      <td>
        <select id='country'>
          <option value='aus'>Australia</option>
          <option value='deu'>Germany</option>
          <option value='uk'>United Kingdom</option>
          <option value='us'>United States</option>
        </select>
      </td>
    </tr>
  </table>
</form>
</body>
</html>
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gamebitsConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Try

input {
  width            : 95%;

and see if you like it better.

Gamebits
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jessegivyDeveloperCommented:
Yea, that was basically my only solution too, and it's pissin me off.  Perhaps gamebits knows why the thing appears to hang over the edge.  I noticed I was thinking of the cellspacing as a border, which it isn't.  

...anyway, I guess the real issue I take here is the excessive use of percentages.  Have you considdered using fixed widths for your table and elements.  The standard is 800X600 interface size to accomodate most resolutions.  I can understand your desire to use percentages to stretch the table and have your site fill the entire screen on all machines, but ultimatly it's not entirely practical in all situations.

...or, as gamebits said, just go with 95%, but my question is "why does the select element display fine and the input doesn't?"
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HonorGodAuthor Commented:
jessegivy, that is exactly my point!
I really, really, really dislike this "work around".  It really isn't a fix, it's a hack.  Yuck.
I am still hopeful that someone can help me understand the "right" way to do this.

I still have lots to learn.
Can someone please explain what is actually happening, and how best to resolve this issue?

Thanks
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jessegivyConnect With a Mentor DeveloperCommented:
>>I still have lots to learn.
don't we all!

I've been writing HTML for over a decade and I'm stumped.  ...Ultimatly I guess, it's just that the folks who design these objects, just do it differently and problems arise.  It seems that the border for the select element is somehow built into the element, and doesn't take up additional screen retail.  Check out this sample code, all I did was get rid of the border and the things line up!!  So, I suppose it's just a matter of how they're rendered.

<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title> Sizing </title>
<style type='text/css'>
input {
width:100%;
border:0;
  color            : yellow;
  background-color : blue;
  font-family      : Courier;
  font-size        : 10pt;
}
select {
width:100%;
  color            : yellow;
  background-color : blue;
  font-family      : Courier;
  font-size        : 10pt;
}
table {
  background-color : #112233;
}
td {
  background-color : #fafad2;
  font-size        : 9pt;
  font-family      : Courier;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<form name='myform' action=''>
  <table width='20%' cellpadding='4' cellspacing='1'>
    <tr>
      <td width='20%' align='right'>City</td>
      <td width='80%'>
        <input type='text' id='user' size='5'>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td align='right'>Country</td>
      <td>
        <select id='country'>
          <option value='aus'>Australia</option>
          <option value='deu'>Germany</option>
          <option value='uk'>United Kingdom</option>
          <option value='us'>United States</option>
        </select>
      </td>
    </tr>
  </table>
</form>
</body>
</html>

...hope this helps in some way, though I can't really imagine how it would?  btw, your html is written perfectly, very easy to read.  Sometimes we have to accept that there are just things in this game that we're gonna have to deal with in one way or another, occasionally, it's a necessity to use the "hack" and as long as it works, there's really no harm.

~Jesse
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HonorGodAuthor Commented:
Jesse:
  Thanks for the compliment, and the response.

  As you say, this is rendered much better in both FireFox 2.0, and IE 7.  Unfortunately IE 7 still has a flaw in that the right margin of the input TD
looks something like:

  ------
  -----

  -----
  -----+

  which I find exceedingly strange.

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HonorGodAuthor Commented:
Thanks for the help guys.  I guess I'll have to be satisfied with at hack... (sigh)
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