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Hi all (and Jeff....probably dislike this one by now...)

Okay, Small Business Server 2003, service packed etc etc (Premium edition)

Take a PC - dont join it to the domain (Windows XP sp2 etc) and "explore" the server company shared folder. Great response no prob.
Same PC - join to domain and "explore" company shared folder and i might as well make tea....

Take it off the domain and its quick as lightning.

Any suggestions.


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Well... how did you join it to the domain?

Also, if you'd kindly post a complete IPCONFIG /ALL from both the server and the workstation, we can review your configuration which is most likely the culprit.  This is because most all network traffic is controlled by TCP/IP.

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Joined via Wizard in My Computer - Network ID.

Got servers ip: (will go and get workstion ip)

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : roytecserv
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : ROYTECSA.local
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ROYTECSA.local

Ethernet adapter Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet Adapter (1
0/100)
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-B3-B0-4E-62
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 196.211.64.178
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.248
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 196.211.64.177
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet Adapter (1
0/100) #2
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-B3-B0-4D-9A
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
   Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

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ClientIP:
C:\Documents and Settings\BruceMartinson>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bruce
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : ROYTECSA.local
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ROYTECSA.local
                                            roytecsa.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : roytecsa.com
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
roller
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-8C-77-D2
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.21
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 21 November 2006 09:07:48 AM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 29 November 2006 09:07:48 AM

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
 Connection
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-35-8D-B8-ED
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Alright... since you didn't join the worksation correctly, using the ConnectComputer wizard, why don't you try that and see if it makes things better.

To do so, you need to disable your Wireless Adapter first.  Then, follow these steps exactly:

At the client machine:
1.  Log in with THAT machine's LOCAL administrator account.
2.  Unjoin the domain into a WORKGROUP
3.  Change the name of the computer (this is not an option, you must use a name that is unique and hasn't been used before on your SBS -- so use something like Bruce1)
4.  Delete or rename the following directory C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business Server\Clients if it exists
5.  Make sure that the network settings are configured to get an IP address automatically (DHCP enabled)
6.  Reboot

Then on the server, from the Server Management Console:
1.  Remove the client computers if it still shows in the Client Computer screen on the Server Management Console
2.  Add the client with it's NEW name using the Add Computer wizard

Then, go back to the client machine, log back in with the local Administrator account and join the domain by opening Internet Explorer and navigating to http://servername/connectcomputer

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Okay Tried this, no connecting at all through the http:// story:

Tearing my hair out....

The page cannot be displayed
There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot be displayed.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

Open the Web site home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or phone number listed on the Web site home page.
403 Forbidden - The ISA Server denies the specified Uniform Resource Locator (URL). (12202)
Internet Security and Acceleration Server


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bob
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : roytecsa.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : roytecsa.com
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8
Ethernet Controller
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-36-23-6C-E0
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.22
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 30 November 2006 1
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 08 December 2006 1

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (
ork)
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-E2-FE-9A-E5
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How is roytecsa.COM getting in there???  Your local domain, according to your initial IPCONFIG on the server is roytecsa.LOCAL  (I think I missed that it was showing roytecsa.com on the workstation in addition to the .local).

Have you modified the DNS tab of the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Advanced properties with an additional domain search suffix?  

Also, since the error is coming from ISA, it seems as though you somehow got an incorrect policy configured in ISA.  You can resolve that by deleting ALL of the firewall policies in ISA and rerunning the Configure Email and Internet Connection Wizard (CEICW -- which is linked as Connect to the Internet in the Server Management Console > Internet and Email).

A visual how-to for that is here:  http://sbsurl.com/ceicw and a full networking overview for SBS is at http://sbsurl.com/msicw

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Just to note... if you did not follow ANY of the guides to set up this server, you really need to.  SBS, unlike standard servers, is a preconfigured environment, and requires that you follow specific guidelines to configure and manage it.

Please review the following documents to better understand it:

http://sbsurl.com/itpro
http://sbsurl.com/techguide
http://sbsurl.com/start

A couple of good book recomendations:
http://sbsurl.com/best
http://sbsurl.com/unleashed

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RTFM!! Right? Right!

No modification of DNS tab done.  

Thank god for tabbed browsing (ie7) so i  can open up all the reading material.

I dunno how roytecsa.com is getting in there-will go look for it. Will let you know.

Thanks again....
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Hehe... I could never get by without tabbed browsing and have been using Maxthon for a couple of years now.  Maxthon has one feature that no other browser has that I can't live without... it's called "Super Drag and Drop" which basically means that you can highlight any text on a page and drag it just a bit and it will open up a search page to search on that text.  IE7 actually has smart highlighting (or whatever they call it) which will bring up a button to allow searching on highlighted text... but that's just more work, in my opinion.

I generally work with 12 to 15 tabs open at once... (and three monitors).

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Nice, going to look now at Maxthon.

You using Matrox tripple head for the three monitors?

PS. Cant find where the roytecsa.com is coming from - i've checked dhcp, dns, tcpip settings. The only place i specified it was in the internet connection wizard.

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Okay, definately cant find where is is getting the roytecsa.com from.

if i dont join to domain its quick as lightning.
if i do its slow slow slow.

re-install server? no no no please.

any other thoughts.....besides reading more manuals ;-)

Sean
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Is the last IPCONFIG that you posted from when it's NOT joined to the domain?  

Please check this key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\SearchList

Is there anything listed there?  

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ipconfig when its not. cause going your route \\clientconnect cant join

reg key  = on the server or laptop?

you not in South Africa in the next day or two by any chance ;-)
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On the laptop.  

Regarding rejoining to the domain... you can't do that if there any other Network Interfaces enabled, so the Bluetooth Interface needs to be disabled.

Also, did you take follow my suggestion to delete all ISA Firewall rules and rerun the CEICW?

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yup -deleted all the firewall rules. re ran CEICW

okay -will disable bluetooth, check reg key and try again in morning - keep you posted.

Thanks
Sean
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Guess the third time was a charm?

:-)

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Jeff, thankyou so much for all the advice and support. Its been a great learning curve with regard to RTFM. Seriously, though-thankyou!

It would appear that if i join the laptop to the domain through network id it retains the roytecsa.com as opposed to getting the roytecsa.local dns suffix. Joining though the connectcomputer seems to correct that (provided i haven't joined using network id first). At least now the client has a speedy new laptop.

Once again, thankyou.

Sean
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No prob.  Good luck!

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