Slow New Computer
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I have bought a new "P4 Gigabyte - 856" motherboard with 3 Gigs of new Pentium4 LGA processor plus new Geforce 5200 VGA of 128 mbs..
I have installed all these to my old P2 case after removing the old power supply with a new one.. !
After i have installed windows the first time,, the computer was freezing and restarting every few mints... I then restarted to the BIOS and checked the TEMP of the CPU, it was over cloaked, then I removed the fan and fixed it again, then it started to work good..
After a while, the computer was slow when login to windows and sometimes it was doing some check on disk and it takes about 30 mins to finish the check...
Now the computer works slow, not like what it should really do,,, I have a computer at the office .. the specs as follow
Celeron 2800 mhz , 256 mbs ram ,, 80 gigz of HDD 100mbs of built in VGA intel chip..
This computer works faster than my computer which i guess should be really a good computer with the above specs..
The reason why i have opened the question in this TA is becoz i believe 100% that the prob is related to hardware, coz i have formatted the computer 3 times, and the HDD is also working well ... there's no Any Bad sectors nor any other issues with it..
one thing i note and it was the heat of the Aluminum thing on the top of the VGA, the heat of this small piece was very high and i couldn't keep up my fingers on it...
So does it have anything to do with a second fan?? the computer has only the CPU's Fan ....
Any help is much appreciated..
I have bought a new "P4 Gigabyte - 856" motherboard with 3 Gigs of new Pentium4 LGA processor plus new Geforce 5200 VGA of 128 mbs..
I have installed all these to my old P2 case after removing the old power supply with a new one.. !
After i have installed windows the first time,, the computer was freezing and restarting every few mints... I then restarted to the BIOS and checked the TEMP of the CPU, it was over cloaked, then I removed the fan and fixed it again, then it started to work good..
After a while, the computer was slow when login to windows and sometimes it was doing some check on disk and it takes about 30 mins to finish the check...
Now the computer works slow, not like what it should really do,,, I have a computer at the office .. the specs as follow
Celeron 2800 mhz , 256 mbs ram ,, 80 gigz of HDD 100mbs of built in VGA intel chip..
This computer works faster than my computer which i guess should be really a good computer with the above specs..
The reason why i have opened the question in this TA is becoz i believe 100% that the prob is related to hardware, coz i have formatted the computer 3 times, and the HDD is also working well ... there's no Any Bad sectors nor any other issues with it..
one thing i note and it was the heat of the Aluminum thing on the top of the VGA, the heat of this small piece was very high and i couldn't keep up my fingers on it...
So does it have anything to do with a second fan?? the computer has only the CPU's Fan ....
Any help is much appreciated..
Also on the CPU http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions_big2.htm make sure there is the right anount of thermal compound and not the pad that comes with the thermal sink.
Follow the instructions for a p4 with some good thermal compound. As for the VGA sink it is probally fine but does need airflow from case fans.
Follow the instructions for a p4 with some good thermal compound. As for the VGA sink it is probally fine but does need airflow from case fans.
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The problem that the case I'm using is an iron Fujitsu Case which doesn't have any special place for the case fans.... So if this is the issue then I must buy a new case and a new fan too.. :( which i'm not able to buy now.... lol
I'll try to use my P2 processor's fan directly on the VGA to see if something going to change or not..!
I'll try to use my P2 processor's fan directly on the VGA to see if something going to change or not..!
What I did on my older cases is use a dremel tool to cut out holes for case fans. But if you go this route take everything out of the case beacuse the metal filings will fry your computer if you do not get all of them out. But definitely try a fan blowing on the open case.
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ok Dynamic... I will try tomorrow... but for now i have some more details from the BIOS regarding the CPU.
CPU TEMP IS 52--> 54 DEGREES..
fan RPM --> 2311
CPU Hyper Thread is enabled....
I have SATA connections but i'm using IDE cables... Probably this is the cause?? how do i make sure without buying a new SATA HDD..?
And Could it be the mem ??? I have only 256 mbs of RAM??? maybe I need to add another 256 mbs..?
CPU TEMP IS 52--> 54 DEGREES..
fan RPM --> 2311
CPU Hyper Thread is enabled....
I have SATA connections but i'm using IDE cables... Probably this is the cause?? how do i make sure without buying a new SATA HDD..?
And Could it be the mem ??? I have only 256 mbs of RAM??? maybe I need to add another 256 mbs..?
As a test I suggest you strip the machine back to bare bones to see which component may be causing the speed problem.
If you've got an onboard VGA port or a spare old video card, use it instead of the hi end one.
The temperature of your CPU sounds correct but try disabling HyperThreading. Some applications can have trouble installing/running when HT is enabled.
SATA is faster but IDE is still pretty fast, nothing to cause incredible slow downs at least.
If you've got an onboard VGA port or a spare old video card, use it instead of the hi end one.
The temperature of your CPU sounds correct but try disabling HyperThreading. Some applications can have trouble installing/running when HT is enabled.
SATA is faster but IDE is still pretty fast, nothing to cause incredible slow downs at least.
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I suppose your mother board support onboard display card,
1. Remove the Geforce 5200 VGA of 128 mbs display card from your system.
2. Check the Bios whether the Onboard display is enabled and external display is disabled.
3. connect your monitor to onboard display and boot your system.
4. a. if your system boots properly, run it for sometime and analyse the speed of the system.
b. if your does not boot properly, try checking the display setting or installing a fresh OS.
5. as per the point 4, if your system is running perfectly, then try installing your Geforce 5200 VGA of 128 mbs card with appropriate drivers and check the speed.
by now you could have come to a conclution where the problem could be.
1. Remove the Geforce 5200 VGA of 128 mbs display card from your system.
2. Check the Bios whether the Onboard display is enabled and external display is disabled.
3. connect your monitor to onboard display and boot your system.
4. a. if your system boots properly, run it for sometime and analyse the speed of the system.
b. if your does not boot properly, try checking the display setting or installing a fresh OS.
5. as per the point 4, if your system is running perfectly, then try installing your Geforce 5200 VGA of 128 mbs card with appropriate drivers and check the speed.
by now you could have come to a conclution where the problem could be.
Try leaving the side of the case off and, if possible, leaving a fan nearby that can blow directly into the case. If there are any heat issues causing problems this would (temporarily) remedy it.
Also, this computer is not near a window is it? (i.e. where the sunlight could beat down on it). The heat issue you mentioned on the VGA card is not normal...
Also, this computer is not near a window is it? (i.e. where the sunlight could beat down on it). The heat issue you mentioned on the VGA card is not normal...
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Alright Guys,,, Finally I'm back....
I have solved the problem and the only ones who was close to the answer are Nobus and Yessirnosir... becoz they suspect the HDD which turns out to be the main problem of the slowdown issue...
Today I took the case and went to a workshop, I replaced the VGA,,, with another one and the computer was acting same... then increased the ram up to 512 ... also was the same with a bit change in the performance...
Then a friend of mine suggested that it's HDD after I told him that I had alots of windows checks on disk when windows starts...
I formatted a new 80 gigz 7200 RPM SATA HDD and installed XP,,, hooked up the 60 Gigz IDE HDD as slave and now the PC works as it should be...
Thank you guys so much for your help..
I'm splitting points between nobus and yessirnosir..
I have solved the problem and the only ones who was close to the answer are Nobus and Yessirnosir... becoz they suspect the HDD which turns out to be the main problem of the slowdown issue...
Today I took the case and went to a workshop, I replaced the VGA,,, with another one and the computer was acting same... then increased the ram up to 512 ... also was the same with a bit change in the performance...
Then a friend of mine suggested that it's HDD after I told him that I had alots of windows checks on disk when windows starts...
I formatted a new 80 gigz 7200 RPM SATA HDD and installed XP,,, hooked up the 60 Gigz IDE HDD as slave and now the PC works as it should be...
Thank you guys so much for your help..
I'm splitting points between nobus and yessirnosir..
thanks for the points... glad it worked out for you.
But you definitely need some case fans.