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How to break execution when a specified value or expresssion changes anywhere in code

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Hi,

All as I want to do is break when the value of Err.LastDLLError changes.

In VB6 I would just use a conditional watch with a global scope and I could see exactly the line that the change occurs but I don't see that ability in VB.net. Using conditional watches to see when a value changes was a great tool in VB6, I hope it's not something MS has taken away.

I do see that the breakpoints are very cool now but breakpoints are limited to the line they are on (as far as I know.)

I am using Visual Studio 2005.
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by:Kinger247
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Hi RegProctor, you can do this in vb.net too !

right click your break point (the red sphere)... you will see that you have the ability to have conditional break points !
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VoteyDisciple earned 200 total points
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I don't know about VS 2005, but unfortunately VS 2003 doesn't support Watchpoints for Visual Basic.  It's definitely possible to add a Watchpoint just as in older versions of Visual Studio, it's just that they won't actually do anything for VB code.  (If you want to convert the whole program to C# you'll have no problem setting a watchpoint.  (-;  )

(Kinger247, you're thinking of ordinary conditional breakpoints, which are still tied to a specific line of code.  That's definitely still supported, but requires knowing where to set the breakpoint in the first place.)
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Indeed I am, more coffee ... coffee...
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No, you cannot do conditional watch's in 2005.
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by:VoteyDisciple
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Why the C grade?  If you were after more information we'd rather you ask before closing the question.
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by:RegProctor
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Why the C upgrade?" For one thing I would not consider going to C an upgrade as I had learned a long time ago it's all about "the right tool for the job" and not that one tool is all that much better than another.

Having looked through the answers and looking rather closely myself as far as I can tell there is no way to do what I want. Two people have said so and I can't find a way so I have just accepted "you can't" as the answer and allocated the points accordingly.

Now, if you know more then these people then please do tell!!!  I'll be happy to change the closing to your answer if you know that you actually "can" set a conditional watch or that there is a way to duplicate the debugging functionality... I'll be very very happy to give you the points and talk with the moderator if necessary to change the point allocation to you.
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No, I was asking why you gave my answer a GRADE of C (not "upgrade").  Grading something a C means you were looking for more information (in which case you should ask before closing the question to give the expert a chance to respond), but you hadn't asked for any clarification and it now sounds like you did get the answer you want, so the grade is confusing.
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by:RegProctor
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Ah, thanks for clarifying that.

No, I just didn't think it took much to say "no you can't do that anymore". I don't think there was a lack in expertise but I don't think the whole thing was all that deep of a question or answer either. If it's bad form to put in a C then I'll bump it up, no problem. I would have left the B's and A's though to coding problems and solutions instead of something as simple as this.
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by:VoteyDisciple
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I see.  It's not a big deal to me, but for future reference the grade should always reflect whether the answer adequately addressed your question.  It's the POINTS that reflect how difficult / hard it is.  You're right that something like this is easier to answer than a question about code, but that's why you made it worth fewer points.

I'm pretty sure I would've been met with some harsh reactions from students if I'd ever said, "Sure, you answered the quiz question fine, but it was an easy question so I failed you anyway."  (-;


Like I said, not a big deal to me, but it's something to keep in mind.  EE's description of this is here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/help.jsp#hi73
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