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In windows XP Pro, is there a way to defrag from a power user account?  The policy is to defrag on request or every three years...you can imagine what the hard drives look like!

Thanks!
~Jillyn
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In short - no!

You could use local administrator rights (if they are available to you) if you were on a domain.

But, other than that - no.

You could get your administrator to use lsrunase (http://www.moernaut.com/default.aspx?item=lsrunase) to pipe the admin password, then you could run this as any user.
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and235100,

Thank you!  Unfortunately, I am not an administrator, local or otherwise, so neither solution will help me :(

Any other ideas?

~Jillyn
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Please note I do not advocate the following - just saying what could be done...

The only other way would be to create a bootable cd from http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/

Then, boot your pc with it, and use the software to forcibly change the local administrator password.

Then, you could use Run As... to run dfrg.msc with the local Administrator credentials.

FYI: http://www.theeldergeek.com/disk_defragmenter_utility.htm

Please be aware you should not do this, if you are on a domain! Speak to your Administrator!
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by:Geisrud
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I have pagedfg from [formerly] SysInternals run at boot.  

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/PageDefrag.mspx

You should be able to install this as power user.
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and235100,

>use the software to forcibly change the local administrator password...

oooohhh....then I'd get fired, loose my house, and me and my pet turkeys would have to move in with my parents *shudders*

~Jillyn
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Geisrud,

Thanks!  This will definitely be useful.  Doesn't look like it defragments regular files though - just system files. etc.

~Jillyn
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by:Kenneniah
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Have you even talked to your IT department about this at all?
We regularly set up encrypted runas files for our users when they want to run something and we deem it ok that they do so.
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Kenneniah,

Well, I turned in a productivity study for our company showing savings per year if a procedure were implemented to do scheduled defrags weekly via something like PerfectDisk, but it was deemed not worth considering...

~Jillyn
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by:Kenneniah
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You might have better results just asking a tech that has admin rights to create an icon for you, rather than try to get a policy created for the entire company.
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Kenneniah,

I can defragment my machine, it's the other people in the department that I was trying to help.  We had a manager locked out of his machine for several hours today because defrag was started by an Admin who then left and the screen saver came up.  I was hoping to bypass such incidents in the future.

~Jillyn
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by:Kenneniah
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Hehe, ok. I guess I was assuming your IT department was better than that. I have no idea why they would actually log in as themselves and lock a user out to do a defrag. It's extremely easy to do a runas, push a defrag schedule out through group policy, or just remotely kick off a defrag from another station. Unfortunately any method I could give you, would require adminstrative access to at least set up.

We actually use a mixture of two of them. We push out a scheduled disk defragmentation with group policy, and we also use a Tqcrunas enctypted runas file so a user can defrag whenever they choose.

Maybe at the very least, you could talk them into creating an icon on the desktop that uses something like supercrypt (basically a newer and better replacement of lsrunase that was already mentioned) to start up disk defragmenter.
http://www.moernaut.com/default.aspx?item=supercrypt
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Kenneniah,

That's a very good idea, and would work perfectly.  I'll take it up with our ITM and see if I can't get something like that pushed through.

Thanks for your help!  I really do appreciate it :-)

~Jillyn
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Kenneniah,

If you go here, I'll even up your points...

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_22078550.html
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by:Kenneniah
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Actually EE frowns on making new posts to give addition points now. Can't remember when they changed that.
Besides, and235100 mentioned using lsrunase. All I did was assist a little and point to a newer version of the program. Also, points aren't a huge deal to me. I come to EE mainly because it gives me something to do in between things at work :)
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Kenneniah,

In any case, I appreciate the help.  Thanks again!

~Jillyn
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