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I have got built in graphics which is supposed to be 128mb. but when i checked on dxdiag, it only says 122. Is there anyway i can get the full 128 so i can use windows aero?

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Onboard graphics typically share system RAM, so this should not be a problem, as Microsoft states http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capablefootnotes.mspx: "If the GPU uses shared memory, then no additional graphics memory is required beyond the 1 GB system memory requirement; If the GPU uses dedicated memory then 128MB is required."

Separate video cards are what Microsoft is getting at with the 128MB RAM requirement.  In any event, there's no way that I can see to change your RAM distribution.
What built in graphics are you using?

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One other possible limitation.  Aero requires a DirectX 9 capable video adapter.  The only integrated video I'm aware of that meets the requirement is Intel GMA 950 integrated graphics.

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intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation - XDDM)

Display Memory: 122.0 MB
 Dedicated Memory: n/a
    Shared Memory: n/a
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Windows Vistaâ„¢ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)

can i get a wddm driver for this?
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If memory serves me correct you will not get 100% of the advertised number.  you will get something close to it simply because of the mathmatics involved.  It might be better to just upgrade to a AGP card they are relatively cheap nowadays and that way it will work better than the internal anyways.

CHeck this website for the cheapest parts

www.pricewatch.com

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thanks, i will get a new card in the morning and if this works i will reward points.
Just make sure the new card also supports Direct x 9 and pixel shader 2.0
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

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i've looked at quite a few graphics cards but the way the connect is different to what i'm seeing in my computer.

will look for a pic online and get a pic here

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Basically, nVidia FX5200 and above and ATI 9550 and above cards meet requirements.
What model motherboard are you using? If its an OEM system whats the make and model?

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EG OF SLOT INSIDE MY COMP : http://pgareg.v1home.com/SUPPORT/peripherals6.jpg

thats how the connection looks inside my computer, but the pictures shown for PCI on the maplin website are totally different.

PCI : http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/A90GH.jpg

PCI-E : http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/A98GH.jpg

AGP : http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/A93GH.jpg

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For DirectX 9 support, you will need an nVidia FX5200 or better; or a Radeon 9500 or better.  These come in AGP or PCI connection versions.

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i have got direct x 10 installed on my comp currently
The slot inside your system is a 5v pci slot, the reason it looks different that the the pci to the card you posted is because the card is a universal pci card it will work in 5v and 3.3 volt pci slots.
Currently the only directx 10 cards out are the 8800gts and 8800gtx and they require a pci-e slot.  This doesn't mean you cant have directx 10 installed it just means it not being used to its full potential unless the hardware supports it.

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i have bought the PCI-E card that is shown in the link above, ooops :(   are there any you recommend

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any of these would work?

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ok thanks u very much

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Will these graphics card be capable or running Windows Aero and Flip 3D
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The ATI Radeon 9250 does not support DirectX9.  You need a 9500 or better if you go with Radeon.
Yep my bad most sites show the 9250 as a directx 9 card but ati's site only shows 8.1. The 5200 would work but this one would be better
http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=PNYOG033MA&nbs_search=C%3D107%26S%3D1073%26lang%3Den-gb%26K%3D%26M%3DPNY%265566v%3DPCI

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I need it to support Vista... Microsoft Says - Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)2, Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
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The 256 MB PCI card that you bought should do the trick...let us know what develops...
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She said she got a PCI-e version by mistake, which won't work: "i have bought the PCI-E card that is shown in the link above, ooops :(   are there any you recommend"

An nVidia FX5200, FX5500, FX6200 or ATI Radeon 9500 or above will work, for PCI.  If you had an AGP slot, you could go for higher performance cards, but it seems you don't think you have AGP slot.  Is this the case?

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Hi guys, thanks for all the info you have provided so far.

Could anyone please tell me if this graphics card is powerful enough for me to use Windows Aero and Flip 3D and some of the other features in Vista. . I'm not bothered so much about gaming. Thanks.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=42458&criteria=Graphics%20Cards&doy=25m1
It does seem to meet the specs, but i cant find what shader it supports
The 6200 has 256mb of video memory, direcxt 9 , supports shader 3.0, is faster that a 5200 and is cheaper than the 5200 in your link
http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=PNYOG033MA&nbs_search=C%3D107%26S%3D1073%26lang%3Den-gb%26K%3D%26M%3DPNY%265566v%3DPCI

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Hi, i've tried this one and it doesn't work in my PC because i need a PCI card. PCI-E and AGP don't work. I've tried them both.

Will the connection type on the card i put up, fit in this type of slot...

http://pgareg.v1home.com/SUPPORT/peripherals6.jpg

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further comments...

does the connection on the card have to be flush with the slot or can some gaps be left like on that card and that of my comp
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Ok, well thank you everyone for your support. I will be buying the card within the next 2 days. If the card works, i will be upping the points and sharing them between everyone that has helped me. Thanks.
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