Jeff, that's not bluntness, it's simple honesty, always appreciated by this geek because it saves time and encourages a better world. Ooo, can I talk like that in here? Sorry.... :)

I could not agree with you more. I generally always take charge and set my clients straight and encourage pro-active, long-term thinking administration, just the way I am. Unfortunately my hands are tied to some extent with this particualr gig I've got with these existing network nightmares and SMB's trying to squeeze 10 years out of an O/S... on a server no less!  I try to politely point out to them that we are in the Information Age now... please refrain from using Industrial Age thinking and assumptions. The days of "we built it and this is how it works and this is the way it will be forever... or at least for the rest of your life" are gone. Change.... it's what's for dinner. Reminds me of another  phrase I invented today (no kidding):

Freedom.... it's better than BBQ.

Alright... so I thought it was catchy. Anyway, this, screwed-up request is all too common with many clients of this 9-5 company for whom I work right now. I'm finding that these guys apparently have set up several servers and I don't think they've even taken one MCSE class. I'll let your experienced imagination imagine the sort of fun that has brought my way since joining these guys... Ah, the real world..... give me the classroom any day when it comes to computers...

But I knew this one would get someone riled up when I posted it. I couldn't believe it when my boss told me they set this client's email up this way. He is always looking for the easy route.... and please don't make me talk about his password habits....

when I asked my boss today why they set it up the email that way for that client... he said "it seemed to work ok..."

what could I say..... without making him cry.....

Jeff -
How'd you get your signature in all your posts? Are you just manually entering it each time? Thanks.

You can say...

So let me get this right... this person wants their Outlook to receive POP3 email which they then store in their Exchange Mailbox.  So when they don't have Outlook open, no mail is received.  Then, they want to be able to look at this mail in OWA which can not be replied to because the POP3 configuration is in Outlook?

Meaning, that if they wanted to reply to the message, that they would either have to get in their car and drive to the office to turn on their computer and open Outlook.  Or... they can reply from their Yahoo! account... so that when the person they are corresponding with replies back, it'll go right back to their Yahoo! account which they never check?


If you want the answer... sure you should be able to use OWA as long as Exchange has been installed and configured for internal messaging... which is the only place messages will be able to be sent.  Follow this KB to get SSL working on it though:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327544

Jeff
TechSoEasy

P. S.  Wisdom is better than BBQ as well.

My signature goes into posts in a couple of ways... either by me using EEQuickPost which has an auto signature, or I have it macroed on my computer... which apparently I didn't hit on the last comment.  :-)

I actually have a number of set replies macroed as well.

Jeff
TechSoEasy

ya see, I didn't even want to burden my brain with thinking about the creative logic it took to configure such a mess nor the consequences as you've pointed out. amazing. I can't wait to go over this with my boss tomorrow...

oh yeah, ssl all the way. thanks.