Orinoco pcmcia Fedora Core 5 - 2.6.15 install?

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I'm trying to install an Orinoco 8740-wd pcmcia adapter on FC5 2.6.15. I think the card is being recognized and the drivers are there, but I don't have the drivers linked to the card or pcmcia isn't installed or loaded or something.  When I installed the o/s I had the laptop attached to a wired network, but I didn't have the pcmcia card installed.

What do I need to do to make this setup work and be specific?

I seem to be missing the pcmcia subsystem.

etc/init.d/pcmcia restart returns
Bash: /etc/init.d/pcmcia: no such file or directory

System-config-network fired off a gui interface labeled network configuration.
Selected add new device but my Orinoco adapter is not listed, I see alot of other adapters, but I don't know how to add one.

lspci –v returns
03:00.0 ethernet controller: atheros communications, inc. ar5212 802.11abg nic (rev 01)
Subsystem: proxim inc unknown device 0a40
Flags: medium devsel, irq 11
Memory at 32000000 (32-bit, non, prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64k]
Capabilities: [44] power management version 2

/sbin/lsmod returns on the first three lines.
Module size used by
Orinoco_cs 16709 0
Orinoco 36565 1 orinoco_cs
Hermes 7489 2 orinoco_cs, Orinoco

Dmesg | grep eth
Finds eth0
Does not find eth1

Ifconfig only shows lo up.

Theres no ifcfg-eth1 file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
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Q- I seem to be missing the pcmcia subsystem.
A- Correct. You have to install support for pcmcia interface devices.
   pcmcia runs as a service in Fedora Linux and if it's installed, up and running you can see it listed in service config list by running chkconfig tools.
  chkconfig --list   ( will give you the list of services )
  chkconfig --list pcmcia  ( will tell you pcmcia status )  etc.
  To enable  support for pcmcia open terminal window , login as root ( su )
and type:  yum install pcmciautils
PCMCIAUTILS package replaces older PCMCIA-CS package.
The older pcmcia-cs  package using the cardmgr/pcmcia service has been replaced with a new pcmciautils  package where the PCMCIA devices are handled directly with the hotplug system using udev dynamically in this Fedora release.
  Once pcmcia package is installed , you have to start pcmcia service by typing
/sbin/service pcmcia start
( you have to gogin as root to do that )
 To enable pcmcia support in runlevels 3, 4 and 5   type:

chkconfig  --level  234   pcmcia  on



 
 
 

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I'm sorry , I just made it : wrong instruction on how to determine whether pcmcia support is enabled.
chkconfig --list   will not give you right information on pcmcia service on Fedora Core 5
soince it's not  using the cardmgr/pcmcia service facility but rather  udev ( and I told you that before). Sorry.
To check if there's support for pcmcia enable type
/sbin/lsmod
and you should see pcmcia kernel module listed there.
Thank you!

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:  yum install pcmciautils  returns
Loading “installonlyn” plugin
Setting up install process
Setting up repositories
Updates
Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates
Error: cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates

I'm also going backwards.  I read that the card would be recognized and pcmcia started if you had the card in the laptop while installing the o/s.  Not having anything to lose I did this and now I don't have anything about orinoco in the lsmod file.  And nothing about pcmcia in the file either.  
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Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates
Error: cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates
These error messages indicate you have to select correct ( active and reliable)
Fedora Core 5 repositories ( either http or ftp site URL ) and they have nothing to do with your pcmcia problem you're having.
BTW , you don't have to worry since Orinoco/Lucent PCMCIA cards are well supported on Linux systems.
So, please, go configure your yum , select appropriate ( and still active) repositories
and then run yum install pcmciautils.
here is one ( official )
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/5/i386/

If even that fails you can download pcmciautils *.rpm installation file and install it manually
Here is the link you can use it to automatically start download:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/5/i386/pcmciautils-012-0.FC5.2.i386.rpm
Once you have file locally , open terminal window, login as root ( superuser=su)
and type:

rpm  -Ivh  pcmciautils*.rpm

to install program.
Then restart program to allow kernel module to be loaded .
Then proceed with wireless card configurations.




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I connected to the Internet and ran the yum install pcmciautils command successfully and rebooted.
I used modprobe orinoco.cs, orinoco, and hermes, lsmod show the modules loaded.  But there's no line for pcmcia_core in lsmod.  And, shouldn't there be?
I ran the 'neat' command and opened up the Network Configuration tool.  There is no mention of orinoco, or Atheros, in the adapter list.  If orinoco is listed in the lsmod file, shouldn't it be listed along with the other adapters?
And, how can I tell that pcmcia is now part of the kernal, or that it's working?

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Thanks for the links, I've printed the documents out.  Would it make any difference if I ran fc6 rather than fc5 or do you still need to go through the steps documented in the how to's?
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Fedora Core 6 will certainly bring  better overall hotplug and udev performance since there are many improvements in system calls area as well as in hardware detection and handling.in  comparison to (aging) FC 5.
Since you're looking for good desktop Linux system with reliable wi-fi connectivity
   I see no reason to stay with Fedora Core releases. Fedora Core project is designed and intended for testing purposes in preparation for official RedHat enterprise releases.
  Much better solutions for your laptop would be Mepis, Suse or ,my favourite, PCLinuxOS ( http://www.pclinux.os.com ) which is RPM based distro ( as Fedora Core is )  and facilitates great Control Center ( borrowed from Mandriva/Mandrake Linux ) with great networking configuration/automation tools.
   When talking user friendliness SuSE and PCLinuxOS are unbeatable and Mepis ( according to some informations and  eviews) is offering great support for wi-fi.
  Fedora is not near something which can be called user friendly desktop Linux. RedHat and Fedora focus is on server systems even though there are some visible improvements in usability area for desktop users.  

 

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Thanks for the suggestions, you have been most helpful and I wish I could bump the point total up. I'm not a complete newbie, but I'm not a Linux power user either.  Fedora just has books that I can buy, and I'm a little more comfortable with a book in front of me as I try to work my way through these things.  I'm going to download and install a copy of PCLinuxOS, and Suse warms my heart because I'm an old Netware hand, and Novell has moved in that direction.  I bought a copy of Suse version 8 some time ago now and played around with it a bit.

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I'm glad you like Fedora Project since I learned most from RedHat/Fedora?Mandrake and
other rpm distribution.
I'm currently with PCLinuxOS 2007 test 3 which is amazing thing and Vector Linux 5.8 (Slackware based) I can't simply understand why is Ubuntu popular so much.
If you are reading Cristopher Negus Fedora/RedHat book the opnly I can tell you have a great sorce at your hands.

good luck and thank you
nedvis

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Oh, BTW, neighter I'm a Linux power user; I'm just a custodian ( manager) in capitol city
methodist church messing around with approximately 20 computer ( church LAN and my five home PC) in my spare time.Enthousiast or geek - I don't know yet?

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Well, you have helped me out immensely and sent me some good links.  So from where I sit, your an Expert :)

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Thank's.
   P.S. I just came home from work and I brought Novell Certification Practicum -Lab manual which came with (unopened) Novell Linux Desktop 9 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 evaluation editions CDs.
    Sure , I found it in half-price book store ( my favourite place to "waste" my money) for only $9. As you can see, second hand book stores are one more great source for such rear beast as Linux and Unix manuals are. There're two more shrinkwrapped FreeBSD boxes left in shelves ( same price) and I'm sure I'll have lot of fun next couple months with my new OS-es.
   

 

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It works great. :) I made a bootable cd of PClinuxOS, it boots up, prompts me for what ethernet connection I want to configure, I choose wireless, detects my Orinoco card, prompts me for the wireless access point, connects to my wireless access point, and I'm out on the web wirelessly.  Thanks again for your help.

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I think I told you ( never mind) : Year 2007 is going to be  PCLinuxOS Year!

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