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WINS is not showing all of the machines while browsing on the PDC side of the network.

Posted on 2007-03-26
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My network is split into two subnets.  The PDC side is only showing the machines on its subnet, but the BDC side is showing all of the machines while browsing.  The WINS server is set up on both sides in a push/pull configuration.  How do I get the PDC side to show all of the machines?
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by:Rick Hobbs
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Are you running Windows 2000?  There is no crying in baseball.  Actually, there should be no BDCs in a Windows 2000 domain unless you are running in mixed mode with legacy NT4 servers.
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by:larry
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Yep, Windows 2000.  Sorry about the PDC/BDC confusion.  The remote server is 2003, but it is a 2000 AD with a Windows 2000 AD server on this side.
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by:Rick Hobbs
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So I take it yo did a forestprep and adprep prior to adding the Windows 2003 AD server to your domain?
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by:Rick Hobbs
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Sorry you, not yo.

One last ?

Why are you using WINS?  Do you have some legacy app(s) that require it or are you still running Win 95/98/ME machines?
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by:larry
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No, it's just a 2000 AD.  Sorry, there is a 2003 server on the other side, but it is just the file server.  Both AD machines are 2000.   This side had been showing machines from both sides but then it only started showing machines from this side.  I can type a remote machine name in manually and hit it, but they won't show up while browsing.
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by:larry
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To answer your last question, we have a few Win98 machines that we still use, but I thought we needed WINS in order for the machine names to show up while browsing.  Is there something else that would affect the machine names from displaying?
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by:Rick Hobbs
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Sounds like either of two things.  Either you have recently added a machine with a wierd name on the remote side that is causing the problem or your WINS database has become corrupt.  Easiest way to find out is uninstall WINS, reboot, reinstall WINS.  If the problem goes away it was the database.  If it doesn't, hook up a sniffer and capture all NBT traffic.  See what is actuall happening.
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by:larry
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That didn't work.  I'm now wondering if it it might not be a DNS problem.  Can DNS do name resolution while browsing as well?  
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by:Rick Hobbs
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Yes.  That is why you no longer need WINS in an NT4 and above environment.  Once you get rid of  all WIn85/95/ME and any Netbios dependent legacy apps you can get rid of WINS also.
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by:larry
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Well, it seems that the WINS database was corrupt.  I found this article which helped me restore a working database and that fixed the problem.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/168712/en-us
Thanks for your help.
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You should try to eliminate WINS in the near future as it is additional traffice that is only required by pre-2000 operating systems and some legacy apps.  The less traffic on the network, the better.
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