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I have a Netware 6 server and it will be completely wiped and loaded with Windows 2003.  The data is backed up using BackupExec for Novell.  After the install I will be restoring the data with BackupExec 11d for Windows.  I do not want to retain file permissions - those will be recreated.  Are there any issues/problems with restoring NFS files to NTFS volume?  Any other tips or suggestions?

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NFS?  You mean NWFS or NSS?

Anyway, if you make a minor modification to the NetWare server, so that NFAP/CIFS is functioning, you could back up the entire NetWare volume as though it were a Windows Share, using the Windows-based Backup Exec, and then probably restore it to Windows.

If not, then I'd try to find out if there's a cross-platform module you have to install - and whether that'd be something you have to buy.  Don't know...

There are several issues that come to mind.  

1)  Does Backup Exec behave like ARCserve does, in that if it knows that the source filesystem is different from the target filesystem will it refuse to do the restore, claiming that it's not a migration tool and an additional module that's not really available is needed to perform that action.  If not, then you may be OK.

2)  If this is a standalone NetWare 6 server, what you plan may be OK, but if there are any other NetWare servers in your network, you will pay dearly for simply turning off the old server.  A NetWare 6 server is not just a box, like Windows tends to be.  If you have more than one NetWare server, I recommend you search the NetWare zone for how to remove a server from your network.

3)  Even if you don't care about translating rights to permissions, or maintaining file ownership, or synchronizing your user base between the directory services, or maintaining group memberships or any of that, you should still consider using network-based tools to do the file moving, rather than trying to shoehorn an archival utility into a migration role.  Things like logging into the NetWare server as an admin, from the Windows box, and doing an XCOPY, or using the FMU part of the Services for NetWare for Windows 2K3.

4) If you >can< use BE for the migration, and you have compression turned on for your NetWare volume(s), you would have to set up your backup to uncompress the files before backing them up.

5)  The files may all end up restoring in 8.3 format, unless BE for Windows can read the NetWare extended attributes and name spaces from the backup performed on the NetWare server using the NetWare version of BE.
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Thanks for your input.  We only have 1 server.  It is currently running Novell.  BE 9.0 for Novell is installed and will be backing up the data.  We are going to wipe the server, install SBS 2003, install BE 11d, and hopefully restore the data.  Then create user accounts and assign file permissions.  I already found the setting to backup files uncompressed - knowing that saved my life, thanks.  The truncated filenames to 8.3 is a problem.  Can anyone confirm if this is the case, or will long filenames be preserved?  
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An alternative: Do you have an old PC (pentium 3 is OK, P4 better, around the 800MHz-1.4 GHz range, that nobody wants to use) that you could throw some memory into and add a big IDE drive to?

If so, you could run an across-the-wire migration, NetWare -to- NetWare, to move your NetWare server to that box, then blow away the original and put Windoze on it, and then copy the files over from NW to Windows using one of the other methods I mentioned...

The "same box, different OS" restore-based migration idea gives me the willies... unless you can get Symantec to indemnify you, *I* wouldn't want to try it with my only server...
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By the way, unless your current NetWare server is one honkin' mamma-jamma blazing fast piece of hardware that NetWare 6.0 wasn't built to handle, you're not going to be all too happy with the results, I'm afraid.  NetWare 6.0 will serve files a whooole lot faster on the same hardware than even Windows 2003 R2 with its performance improvements.  Sure, 2K3 is faster than Windows 2000 Server, but it still can't beat NetWare for hardware efficiency...

Just sayin'
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I think the server is more than capable of running w2k3.  It's a P4 with a gig of RAM and three 146 gig drives in a Raid 5 configuration.  We have several other clients with the same or worse hardware that run 2003 just fine.  I'll probably end up putting a big drive in a workstation with Novell client and copy all the data over to it to be safe.
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That may work for you too...  but if you do the ATW migration, you've got the actual old system there, "to be safe."  Again, that's me...
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I appreciate your advice.  If I knew more about Novell, had the install media, and more time, I would try the ATW migration.  But this is all going to happen tomorrow and I need to figure out the best way to preserve the data considering my circumstances.

Has anyone restored data from a tape originally backed up from Novell and restore the data on a Microsoft box using BackupExec?
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I ended up copying all the data over the network to a Windows box with a large hard drive and then back over when SBS was installed.  Since ShineOn was the only one that gave input, he gets the points.
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