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Adding wireless router on wired network

We just purchased a netgear wireless router/print server (FWG114P) and would like to install it on an existing wired network..  i am having trouble configuring the wireless features.  I can get through to the office & internet when i am hardwired to the wirelss router, however i am unable to browse network or connect to internet wirelessly.

I am not concerned with separating the networks.  all clients need access to all resources

I performed an ipconfig on on my wireless client and they are not getting an ip address.  

Any help is always greatly appreciated.
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I use Linksys, but this might help you anyway.  Do you have the cable from the wired router connected to the WAN port for the wireless router?  Since you really want a flat network, that is not necessary.  Connect that cable to a LAN port of the wireless router.  You won't have to deal with firewall or routing issues that way.  Disable the WAN interface.  Set the gateway IP address the same as any other devices, your gateway router. Disable DHCP on the wireless router and allow your normal DHCP server to provide addresses.  Probably your wired router?  All that said, I am unsure as to why you are seeing a difference between wired and wireless to the same router...
Your wireless router's LAN address should be within the subnet supported by your gateway router, too.
As long as you have a wireless access point (either a hardware device or computer with this software capability), you can connect to an existing network. The access point bridges your wireless and wired networks, allowing you to continue to use your wired hardware (router, hub, PC cards, etc.).Use a network cable to connect this port to any normal port on your wired network.

Note that your access point must match the type of network to which you want to connect. For instance, if you want to add your wireless laptop to a Token Ring network, you need an access point with that capability. Hardware devices called bridges are also available if you want to connect two different types of networks
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I have the wired lan connecting to the wireless router through a LAN port.
My wireless router has a reserved IP address of 192.168.1.3.  

My wired network address is 192.168.1.x. subnet 255.255.255.0.  Gateway 192.168.1.1
DHCP is provided by Small Business Server2000
I am sorry to ask a question like, "Is it plugged in?"  But...

Have you verified that you actually are connecting to that particular wireless router wirelessly and not some rogue router?  I am bothered by the difference between plugging it in and connecting it wirelessly.  As I said, I use Linksys, but I can’t see how I could configure them to do what you are seeing…

Also, please verify that DHCP is disabled in all the routers.  And, check the subnet specifications in the wireless router.


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i disabled the dhcp service on the router. however the router is not acting as a dhcp "passthrough".  so my wireless clients have a fictitious ip of 169.254.162.109.  there is no configuation page on the wireless router concerning dhcp passthrough. and if i confgure the router as a dhcp server it shuts the network dhcp server down.

I visited the website for netgear routers and dhcp passthrough does seem to be an issue.

How do i configure?
http://www.comptechdoc.org/independent/networking/guide/netdhcp.html says that the DHCP server uses port 67 and the DHCP client uses port 68.  You would need to permit that flow.

It bothers me that you are seeing this problem.  The cable connecting the wireless router to the wired router should be connected via a LAN port on both sides.  The firewall operates between the WAN and the LAN.  So, the firewall shouldn't be blocking any traffic since you are not connected to the WAN.

The caveat is that I don't work with NetGear, but I figured they'd all be the same that way...  The basics don't change.

You say enabling DHCP on the wireless router shuts down the network DHCP server?  Does it literally shut it down, or does it simply server DHCP addresses faster.  It's bascially a race condition to see which DHCP server responds first...
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when i have wireless security set to none all works well.  when i switch it WEP security i can't get an ip address.  is there any why i can secure wireless connection and still get a dhcp assigned ip address?

Thank you
Do me a favor...  In each of my previous posts, I asked some questions.  Go back and answer them for me.  I ask them because I need the information so that I can help you.  Thanks...
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Have you verified that you actually are connecting to that particular wireless router wirelessly and not some rogue router?  Yes our wireless router is named and it verifies "Limited connection" on network icon.

DHCP is disabled in all the routers.  And, check the subnet specifications in the wireless router and netowok are the ssame 255.255.255.0.

DHCP server service stops on the server and needs to be restarted when DHCP is enabled on the router.  

Not sure if this is useful, but, I have SBS 2000 which serves as domain controller, firewall, dhcp server, exchange server.

I just disable the WEP security on the router last night and i am able to connect, browse network and internet.   i am now getting an ip# from my DHCP server, but now i feel my network security is compromised.  how can i secure wireless and still browse?
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Did that solve it?  Again, it shouldn't, because you are not using the WAP as a router since the connection is LAN-to-LAN.  RIP should not be involved at all.  For the same reason, DHCP should pass without restrictions.

I have my routers WPA enabled and had used WEP successfully in the past without these issues.  This may be something particular to Netgear?  I went to their site for support.  It's not very friendly.  I couldn't fine a user's guide.  I would try WPA, instead.  I would also look for some function that permitted DHCP within WEP.  I am running out of options without more information.  Good luck.

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Enabling RIP solved the problem, I wll try WEP v WPA just to see if that makes any difference.  But currently all is operational and secure.

Thank you