Have 12 futura fonts in start/control panel/fonts and only 4 show up in Illustrator and Photoshop....

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I'm using Adobe Illustrator 12 and Photoshop 9 and when I insert text I don't have all of the font options for Futura.  I am using this on Windows XP Professional and when I go to control panel and then into the fonts folder I see a total of 12 fonts for futura and with in Illustrator and Photoshop I only see 4 that are available and then when I choose the formating (italic, bold, etc....) for these four fonts they are not available or they only have one of the formatting options.  Can anyone tell me how to use these other formats of the Futura Font?
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Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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there's a tech note about it here ellsworth2000:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=322050
Hope this helps.
vallis.

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do you know if the font is PostScript, TrueType or OpenType?
Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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I should have been a bit more specific:
The relevant bits are:

Solution 3: Choose the font from the Font pop-up menu and the style from the menu to the right of the Font menu.

If you are looking for a font style, such as Minion Bold Condensed, choose the font (for example, Minion) from the Font pop-up menu, and then choose the style (for example, Bold Condensed) from the menu to the right of the Font menu.

Solution 4: Install the latest version of the Adobe application.

Install the latest update of the Adobe application. Updates are usually available free of charge from the Adobe website at www.adobe.com/support/downloads/ . Upgrades are available from the Adobe Store at http://store.adobe.com/store/ .
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Sibgig - They are all True Type or they say that in parenthesis when viewing them from the fonts folder in control panel

Vallis - I'll try Solution 3 and 4 and let you know ASAP:D

Thanks guys:D:D:D

Ellsworth

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Vallis - when I choose the font Futura Black BT or the futura Black xBLK BT the style drop down menu is greyed out.  When I use the futura MD BT only bold and bold italic is available and when I use the futura Lt BT only light and light italic are available.  Any more ideas?

Thanks,

Ellsworth
Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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Do these fonts and variants all show up correctly in other applications. e.g. Word or Wordpad?
I'm wondering whether it's a Windows fonts problem rather than an Adobe problem.

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Vallis - I just checked MS Word and it too has only 4 futura fonts and I'm able to bold italics and underline each of the fonts.  How do I know who created the futura font or do you know who I should contact to see if there is an update to this font?
Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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If you do a search on "futura font download" or similar, you'll find a number of free sources.

I'd remove the fonts via Control Panel > Fonts before reinstalling them.

Bear in mind that although you may have a dozen or so of one font family, not all these will show in apps. For instance,many fonts have a standard, italic and bold version but only the standard will be in the font dropdown list.

Other fonts don't have the italic and bold versions so that Windows creates italic or bold versions on the fly. These are generally not as well formed as those which include the full range.

I'm sure I have Futura fonts on a Corel disc, I'll install them and see how they perform in Photoshop.
Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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OK Ellsworth,
I've installed 21 Futura ttf files. These show up as twelve variants in Photoshop and Illustrator. The extra 8 are italic versions etc.
If you have any trouble downloading and installing the fonts, email me:
<email address removed by LHerrou>
and I'll send you all 21 files as attachments.

Alan.
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Ellsworth2000,

First of all, Adobe products are notorious for their handling of fonts, but in this case, it sounds like a Windows problem. There's some possible different reasons for this, ranging from a failed install to corrupt fonts. If you can re-install your fonts, I suggest going ahead and un-installing and then re-installing them as a first step - be sure to use the proper procedure (see below) rather than just dragging and dropping in the fonts folder.

The next step is to try running Fix Fonts Folder, which you can download from the software maker here: http://www.high-logic.com/fifofo.zip. (If that doesn't work, you can get here: https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/ee-stuff/2030-fifofo.zip - You'll need to log in with your Experts Exchange login and password). This will help fix any registration problems with your fonts, and identify any corrupted fonts. Let us know what the results are. Make sure your Futura fonts show up in FiFoFo before we go any further.

Cheers,
LHerrou
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Here's how to install your fonts:
   1. Choose Start -> Control Panel
   2. Double-click the Fonts folder.
   3. Choose File -> Install New Font.
   4. Locate the fonts you want to install.
   5. Select the fonts to install. To select more than one font, hold down the CTRL key and click each font.
   6. To copy the fonts to the Fonts folder, make sure the Copy fonts to the Fonts folder check box is selected. This isn't strictly necessary in this case, since you will be keeping them on the computer, but if you are installing from CD, etc. you'll want to make sure you copy the files - otherwise they will only work if the CD is in the drive).
   7. Click OK to install the fonts.

Cheers,
LHerrou
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Lee, I am not sure why you are proposing "Delete - no refund"

According to the Cleanup section of the Help file,
"Delete - No Refund
    The question and the comments aren't worth keeping, but the Asker has given no reason to refund his points. You'll know these when you see them."

Vallis gave a lot of useful information, and the Asker never responded after I provided additional suggestions. I don't think it qualifies for "Delete - no refund"
Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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@ lherrou

Sorry!

:o(

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vallis and lherrou,

My Understanding is that I need to download fonts that are specifically designed and compatibly with Adobe products for them to work in Photoshop.  Is that the jist of it?

Thanks,

Ellsworth
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No, not at all.

First, let me bring some clarity to something:
You said "when I choose the font Futura Black BT or the futura Black xBLK BT the style drop down menu is greyed out.  When I use the futura MD BT only bold and bold italic is available and when I use the futura Lt BT only light and light italic are available."

Futura Black and xBLK are extra-bold versions of Futura. There is no italic version, and it's already an extra-bold version of the font, there's no "bold" version of this. Likewise with the Futura Lt - it's a light font, you have the light and light italic versions, there is no bold version of a light version of a font.

From that respect, there may not be a problem. You indicated you had 12 files, and 4 fonts showing. If you had a regular version of Futura, it should use three or perhaps even 4 files (regular, bold, italic, and perhaps bold+italic). So there's 3-4 of the files already.

Other points had to do with Adobe's handling of fonts. Sometimes versions of a font show different in Adobe, and also Adobe does not handle non-standard font formats well. Hence my suggestion of using the FiFoFo program to check what you had and to make sure they were not corrupt.
Alan HendersonRetired marine engineer

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I believe that the question has been answered.
PAQed with points refunded (500)

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