Server 2003 Repartition

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I currently have a server 2003 with a very small 12g hard drive that is all maxed out except 250mb.  I need to take some room from the d drive and transfer it to the c drive. Does anyone know how I can do this or any 3 party software how i can do this.

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First thing is to determine your final outcome.  
depending upon the total drive size and partition sizes.
If you plan to install a larger harddrive, then the answer is simple.  Install the new larger drive and then copy all data from both drives to the new drive.  You can alw
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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What does this Dell server do?  Is it a terminal server?  

If it's not a terminal server, then you shouldn't be trying to expand the C: drive - you should be moving the data files and other unnecessary files off the C: drive an onto another drive.  What exactly is taking up the space?
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You need to use Acronis to get your task done. The software allows you to expand your partition on Windows Server, which allows you to automatically or manually merge, split, resize, copy, and move partitions without losing data. Check this affordable product out:
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirector/partitioning.html

K
Simple solution - get larger, very larger hard drive. And using Ghost from dos boot floppy image the old drive to the new one. Unless this is a SATA system you should have no trouble

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We have a very large hard drive currently installed 600G. All the recomindations above are for home pc operation system. I need one for server 2003. I look at acronis and they want 500. That seems a bit much for a one time partition
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Not all the suggestions... Is there is a reason you don't want to answer my questions?
Cheap and easy

Drive image XML(free)

www.runtime.org

Create image and restore using Barts CD.
You are wrong. Ghost is not a  "home PC" solution. In works at home but is very good in the corperate computer world also. Of course myself,  Boeing, Washington DOC could all be wrong
Acronis is not just a home solution either. I use it in 4 locations for weekly backups of clients

Are you running SCSI with hardware RAID? If yes then Acronis would be a pricey solution. I didn't want to spent the money either.
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Give us all the system infomation please. Doing so would allow us to give you want you allude to wanting. Be prepared for sticker shock. In support tools whe you say server the vendor see BIG dollar signs.

Now what are the system specs?

SCSC, IDE or SATA
RAID LEVEL -
 hardware or software raid?
Drive size - 600 gig
Server Standard, Advanced, Small Business Server?

Oh and fire the ID-10-T who only gave a 12 gig C drive on a 600 gig drive. Most ppl don't think about all the crap that is on a C drive. Even if you don't put programs on it a lot of program data is written to the C drive.
On large drive I give between 10 - 20 percent for the boot drive. I also put the page file on the logical drive "D"  if it is one huge phyiscal drive like your 600 gig. No difference in performace but it make easier housekeeping.


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I completely disagree with one exception.  A terminal server would require a much larger C: drive to accommodate user profiles and programs.  Other than that, I've never seen a properly configured server need more than 5-9 GB.  So 12 is MORE THAN ENOUGH in probably 99.9% of all cases that aren't terminal servers.  Using more space is simply a waste of space.  Yes, On a grander scale, space is cheap... but to many smaller companies, every dollar and every gig counts... so setup the server properly and 12 GB is ABSOLUTELY FINE.

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Yes this is a terminal server.  I was not refering to ghost being a home solution...But we were looking for a solution to repartittion without any long down time. The link that was for Acronis was a home solution and could not be installed on a server 2003 platform.

The person that originally configured this server is long gone (and now I know why). The files taking up the space are all system files, when a program was installed to the second partition it still wrote files to the primary(as it should..system32).

System specs you are requesting are below as the machines original configuration before we swaped hard drives:

Service Tag: G6CXZ91
System Type: PowerEdge 1800
Ship Date: 5/16/2006
Dell IBU: Americas
 
 
 
Quantity Parts # Part Description
 
1 C8509 PROCESSOR, 80546K, 3.2G, 2M, XEON IRWINDALE, 800, N0
1 P8611 ASSEMBLY, TRAY, MOTHERBOARD, QUANTA, PE1800, 4
0 2260R PREPARATION MATERIAL, DEV, SRV, INCRS #1
1 6878T CORD, POWER, 125V, 10FT, SJT, UNSHIELDED
1 RG823 KIT, DOCUMENTATION ON COMPACT DISK, DOCUMENT OBJECT MODEL, V4.5, WORLD WIDE
1 J4628 KEYBOARD, 104, UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS, UNITED STATES, ENTRY, LEAD FREE, LITEON
1 C8639 KIT, MOUSE, UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS, 2BTN, OPTICAL, LEAD FREE, LOG
4 X1562 DUAL IN-LINE MEMORY MODULE, 1G, 400M, 128X72, 8, 240, 1RX4
1 C8509 PROCESSOR, 80546K, 3.2G, 2M, XEON IRWINDALE, 800, N0
1 TF102 ASSEMBLY, COMPACT DISK READ WRITE/DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE COMBO, 48X, HALF HEIGHT, TOSHIBA SAMSUNG STORAGE TECHNOLOGY, BLACK
1 T9998 DISPLAY, FLAT PANEL DISPLAY, 17, DUAL VOLTAGE, E176FPB, MIDNIGHT GRAY, DELL AMERICAS ORGANIZATION
1 CG298 HARD DRIVE, 250G, S2, 7.2K, 9G, 3.5, WD-HAWK
1 GJ554 ASSEMBLY, CABLE, Serial ATA, 6, VIDEO RESOLUTION
1 Y5562 ASSEMBLY, CABLE, Serial ATA, POWER, 6DROP
1 XD084 CARD (CIRCUIT), CONTROLLER, Serial ATA, CERC-SATA-6CH
3 CG298 HARD DRIVE, 250G, S2, 7.2K, 9G, 3.5, WD-HAWK
3 GH702 KIT, SOFTWARE, WINDOWS SERVER 2003, CAL5D, ENGLAND/ENGLISH
1 KG877 OVERPACK KIT, WINDOWS SQL SERVER 2005 STANDARD EDITION, 5 CLIENT LICENSES, ENGLAND/ENGLISH
1 GJ794 OVERPACK KIT, 3R2S, ENGLAND/ENGLISH
2 J1679 CARD (CIRCUIT), NETWORK, ETHERNET, PRO1000, DUAL
 
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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Have you looked into BootIt-NG and the other Terabyte Unlimited programs?
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
I work in a small company where every dollar counts. While I am not a fan of wasting space I do allow for reasonable expansion.Granted I would not make a 60 gig boot drive but 10% gives me a hard number to work from.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of boot drive sizing for server right now 12 GIG does not met his needs or desires.

I have a solution that would work if you have another disk that you could put in the server, if it is large enough to hold everything for one or 2 days.
It is time consuming and requires:
Acronis 9.0 (home would work fine)
Partition Magic 8
Windows XP or Windows 2000

It works but I did have the time and I had the programs and extra hard drive. but it was IDE.  
Alll my current servers are SCSI so it doesn't work with them.
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Sorry for posting a wrong product, but yes, acronis does have partition manager for server. However, as you said, it cost $500. It's the only reputable third party software I have known that support server  and SCSI disk
http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/diskdirector/

K


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I tried acronis home version but it wont even install. It says that i have to use the server version. I guess I am stuck spending the money....hopefully I can get approval to spend 500 for a one time use. ( i think they are going to make me come in on a weekend and back everything up and reformat)

Lucky Me :)

Thank you to everyone for their help
You do not install it. You use the bootable CD. Then Acronis does not care about what O/S it is. but be forewarned you can not just repartion with Acronis Home.
Like I said I have a process that works, but it is time consuming. You will find once you use Acronis you may be using it a lot more. You can use that as a selling point. And read very carefully the Acronis website. It may help
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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Mark,

Are you encouraging him to violate the product licensing?
( i think they are going to make me come in on a weekend and back everything up and reformat)
Then use the DriveXML method,a whole lot faster and safer.
The problem was Backup Exec.  For some reason, it was causing the server to reboot.  I'm working with Symantec to resolve the problem.  Thanks for all your ideas.
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Ok... what does that have to do with this question?

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