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sync .ost to .pst

i have an old blackberry that i sync to a .pst folder via usb. i also have an old hotmail account (the only email account i have ever used) that i sync to an .ost folder. i am especially concerned with my contact lists, as they are getting more and more out of tandem. how can i sync the two folders?
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peakpeakCommented:
Please Elaborate
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SysExpertCommented:
Are you only worried about your contact list ?

You should be able to use the export options to export to a file and import. You may also be able to use another sync program to synch with Hotmail, or outlook, or perhaps to tell the BB desktop maanger to use outlook and your OST .

In any case backup all files beforehand and export all contacts to text files before trying.

Get the latest BB desktop manager SW from the RIM site

https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=A8BAA56554F96369AB93E4F3BB068C22

I hope this helps !
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
i do not use hotmail for any pim functions other than the address list. i use my blackberry for my calendar and memos. i have been checking out a variety of syncronizing applications, especially the kind that will sync one outlook folder to another. i found one corporate level solution that will do it, but it costs $500. i can import/export, but then i just have lots of duplicate records, so i need a real sync program.

the latest bb desktop manager supports yahoo, lotus, .csv, but not hotmail, so i am trying to find a workaround. most sync programs will synchronize a .pst file to a .pst file, but very few (except the expensive ones) will sync a .pst to a .ost. if anyone knows of a low-cost program that will do it, i am interested.
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
is there anybody out there who can help me?..............please........  :(
            *snif, snif*

     :'(
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peakpeakCommented:
Use Outlook Express to get the contacts from Hotmail: http://email.about.com/od/hotmailtips/qt/et072804.htm
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SysExpertCommented:
Also - I would do a one time sync, and then just use one or the other, since trying to keep them in sync in the future is going to be a pain.

Or use a third party program to store the data.


I hope this helps !
 
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
i currently synchronize outlook with hotmail every day. the synchronized hotmail information is stored in a .ost file, which is the same a regular .pst outlook file, but the data fields are mapped in order to be synchronous with hotmail data fields. so now i have two pim database files, an ordinary .pst outlook file and a special .ost outlook file hotmail information. i use the one for my blackberry info and the other for my hotmail info.

i have already explored a few third party software programs to synchronize the two, but they are either non-solutions or too expensive.
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SysExpertCommented:
I would consider using the BB device and the BB desktop amanger to handle your contacts and not try to also keep it in sync with Hotmail.

I would also check if Gmail or yahoo allow for better synching with your blackberry.

 
I hope this helps !
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monorail1Commented:
I suggest stopping usage of OST, converting the OST into a PST, setting the PST as mail delivery location (OR copying contents out into new PST) then use the BB desktop manager (<v4.1 intellisync, v4.2 synchronize) to map out the PIM to hard sync to the newly-created PST. From there you can either manually merge the data from within outlook manually or you can sync between the two via blackberry using it as the catalyst so to speak. From my experience, OST's are typically not easy to work with and are generally used with traveling laptops.

Good luck & let us know.


~ CFJ
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
cfj-   that sounds more well informed than some of the other comments.  how can i get outlook to sync up with hotmail without using an ost? i am using outlook connector (an add-on by microsoft) which is the only option i know of for syncing outlook to hotmail.

outlook connector creates the ost, rather than the pst. this may be necessary because i have a free internet mail account (stmp), rather than pop3 or imap  -tim  :(




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monorail1Commented:
I unfortunately didn't know that a hotmail connection requires usage of an OST and apologize for the misinformation.

With that said, the idea I have isn't exactly a solution but I guess it could qualify as a workaround.

I've never set up a Hotmail account via Outlook 2003 so I'm afraid I'm at a loss for some experience. Do your Outlook contacts fully sync w/ Hotmail or just messages? When you compose a message in outlook under this account, click on the TO button so it populates with your Exchange GAL or Hotmail/OST contacts. If this works, here's the idea:

I can't help much with the email (in terms of reconciliation) BUT if you create a PST (outlook > file > new > outlook data file) after creating the file immediately after save you get then chance to Name the PST. Maybe call it "Hotmail-BB Sync" or "I hope this works" then right-click drag/copy your existing contacts down to the archive duplicating the contents. Keep in mind this is a manual process so if your Hotmail/Outlook contacts sync this isn't really a convenient solution. Once the contacts/calendar/notes/tasks etc. are copied into their respective folders in the newly-created PST you can sync to them in BB Desktop Manager (BBDM). Now, if you're one of those people who constantly use that TO: button address book function, then right-click on the PST 'contacts' folder > properties > outlook address book and CHECK that box. if you start using that one as primary for contacts then you can repeat the steps for your Outlook OST contacts (except deselect so your only reading contacts from one source). Once into a PST, change your PIM mappings in BBDM under intellisync (v4.1> and synchronize in 4.2).

I don't have a hotmail account but if this doesn't work and you can provide additional explanation on how hotmail/outlook interact I'd be happy to take another crack at it.

Best,


~ CFJ
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
cfj-  hotmail syncs with the contacts in the ost/outlook and visa versa, so if i make a change in my local ost file, it shows up in on the hotmail server. hotmail is a stmp web email service that is designed to be accessed through a web browser, so none of my pim data is stored locally unless i use outlook connector. my goal is to get hotmail (the stmp server) to sync with my desktop machine, and my desktop machine to sync with my blackberry.
                                     hotmail <--> desktop <--> blackberry
since i have two databases on my desktop that i am trying to reconcile, i have to sync them in order to sync hotmail to my blackberry.
                                     hotmail <--> ost <--> pst <--> blackberry
as you can see the whole situation is getting silly.
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
hotmail only has my addresses, but my blackberry has addresses, calendar events, and notes.
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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
i had an epiphany--stop using my (ost) hotmail address list completely but continue using hotmail. just let the hotmail ost descend into chaos and lovingly maintain my blackberry's pst folder on my desktop. every now and then if i want, i can delete the entire hotmail contact list and replace it with the one in my blackberry's pst file. that way i can still access the contact list if i am away from my desktop <i>and</i> my blackberry.

i had erroneously assumed that my hotmail email was hard-wired to my hotmail contacts, it is not true. i can use any contact database i want, which will no longer be the hotmail address list.
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SysExpertCommented:
That's pretty much what I thought I said.

Good luck !

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timothyaustenAuthor Commented:
sysexpert-  i thought you wanted me to switch away from hotmail completely. it is a real pain to get a new email address and then try to get all my friends to add it to their addresses. now i see that you just wanted me to stop using certain features of hotmail, like personal information managment, while continuing to use the actual email. ditching hotmail just sounded like giving on up finding a solution to my problem. i wasn't interested in hearing that at all. i'd love to switch to gmail. i'm not willingly loyal to hotmail and microsoft-i'm a slave.  :(
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