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Access SMTP server with authentication
(Trying again because not making much progress)
Okay, I've got an older microsoft VC++ 6.0 program that works great, it's a home automation program that sends me an email at work at certain times.
However, I'd like to switch smtp servers to my gmail account, but smtp.gmail.com requires some sort of encryption (I think it's TLS, because when I telnet in to send an email I get a "must issue a STARTTLS command first z52ss97610"). I am sending my email using sockets with this server, so I have to figure out what commands to send the server (I think I'm supposed to process that z52ss976 into a hashed value, with my password probably, and send it back?). Does anyone have a specific blow-by-blow about how to negotiate with these email servers? Or some sample code that handles this?
Previously I was using the popular FastSMTP class, which works great but isn't built to handle this type of authentication.
(By the way this works perfectly and transparently with my .NET programs, I can send an email programmatically using my gmail account, so I know it's possible, it's just that the encoding -- MD5? -- is performed automatically by the .NET objects. In MFC I have to do this manually by sending the right data using sockets, and I just don't know how to calculate the right responses and what to send. I do NOT want to convert this program to .NET, this should be very do-able in MFC)
I've been working three angles, none easy:
a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer
gives a lot of detail on the data and sequence. This would be writing it from scratch, and assuming that this really tells you everything. A lot of work.
b) http://www.codeproject.com/internet/casyncsocketex.asp
which is a project that extends an async socket with SSL. My first problem is that I don;t how to apply this yet, gmail requires a connection, and then a STARTTLS command, then TLS handshaking. Not sure this gives you that much control (although I try to figure it out by inspection and it seems to call all of that stuff out of the openssl library, thus...)
c) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openssl
which is an open source ssl/tls library, which could fit my bill but haven't even scratched the surface yet.
Any is a pain in the butt, anybody have anything to move me along in any direction? Thanks!.
Okay, I've got an older microsoft VC++ 6.0 program that works great, it's a home automation program that sends me an email at work at certain times.
However, I'd like to switch smtp servers to my gmail account, but smtp.gmail.com requires some sort of encryption (I think it's TLS, because when I telnet in to send an email I get a "must issue a STARTTLS command first z52ss97610"). I am sending my email using sockets with this server, so I have to figure out what commands to send the server (I think I'm supposed to process that z52ss976 into a hashed value, with my password probably, and send it back?). Does anyone have a specific blow-by-blow about how to negotiate with these email servers? Or some sample code that handles this?
Previously I was using the popular FastSMTP class, which works great but isn't built to handle this type of authentication.
(By the way this works perfectly and transparently with my .NET programs, I can send an email programmatically using my gmail account, so I know it's possible, it's just that the encoding -- MD5? -- is performed automatically by the .NET objects. In MFC I have to do this manually by sending the right data using sockets, and I just don't know how to calculate the right responses and what to send. I do NOT want to convert this program to .NET, this should be very do-able in MFC)
I've been working three angles, none easy:
a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer
gives a lot of detail on the data and sequence. This would be writing it from scratch, and assuming that this really tells you everything. A lot of work.
b) http://www.codeproject.com/internet/casyncsocketex.asp
which is a project that extends an async socket with SSL. My first problem is that I don;t how to apply this yet, gmail requires a connection, and then a STARTTLS command, then TLS handshaking. Not sure this gives you that much control (although I try to figure it out by inspection and it seems to call all of that stuff out of the openssl library, thus...)
c) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openssl
which is an open source ssl/tls library, which could fit my bill but haven't even scratched the surface yet.
Any is a pain in the butt, anybody have anything to move me along in any direction? Thanks!.
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If your purpose is to send mail through gmail and not write an ssmtp client, than you can use stunnel to provide the tls layer. You just connect normally (no tls) to a local port that stunnel listen on and it tunnels data to the destination smtp server using a tls connection. See e.g. http://spampal.sanesecurity.com/manual_eng/servers/stunnel/stunnel.htm#sconfig21
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Woah, aatrish, that worked! That's a different gmail server than I was using. Why doesn't it require SSL???
Well, gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
But you can use it ONLY to send emails to ...@gmail.com.
It's different than the outbound smtp server that gmail users are supposed to useto send mail outside (smtp.gmail.com). This one lets you send email to ANY domain (after authentication) AND email sent this way ends up in your Sent folder.
But you can use it ONLY to send emails to ...@gmail.com.
It's different than the outbound smtp server that gmail users are supposed to useto send mail outside (smtp.gmail.com). This one lets you send email to ANY domain (after authentication) AND email sent this way ends up in your Sent folder.
ASKER
Okay, figuring out whether that will fit my bill...
(By the way, re-reading my question, I wasn't claiming to be a guru on this question, I was trying to say I NEED a guru on this question. Still getting used to new scheme.)
(By the way, re-reading my question, I wasn't claiming to be a guru on this question, I was trying to say I NEED a guru on this question. Still getting used to new scheme.)
well rice man there is the smtp server for each and every mail like gmail which dont require authentication,
but if you use any corporate ID they wont work like that :-)
but if you use any corporate ID they wont work like that :-)
ASKER
What do you mean "use any corporate ID"?
You mean like smtp.ibm.com?
You mean like smtp.ibm.com?
yesssss there implementation is diffrent....
genrally comps purchase space on web from other company so
its not necessart the smtp server will contain the name of company also:-)
its not necessart the smtp server will contain the name of company also:-)
ASKER
It sounds like you're telling me something about the landscape of the internet. I don't know much about that, definitely Can you summarize it for me? Thanks.
well brother.
suppose if u want to create a web addrese then u need web hosting space on the net(several company provide that space to web) depending upon size and money u can ask them for mail id( of course ur corporate id) and the space per mail id and lots of other customization since its highly taiolred depending on the need and space involved
suppose if u want to create a web addrese then u need web hosting space on the net(several company provide that space to web) depending upon size and money u can ask them for mail id( of course ur corporate id) and the space per mail id and lots of other customization since its highly taiolred depending on the need and space involved